WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.080 --> 00:00:06.860 But coming our panelists are ready. So I get me some Are you going to so so I want 2 00:00:06.870 --> 00:00:12.160 to the city I'm going to that's planning department. I am confident Elaine 3 00:00:12.170 --> 00:00:16.130 invariably is my other taller half. And we do 4 00:00:16.140 --> 00:00:22.312 a lot of policy. Early implement 5 00:00:23.613 --> 00:00:27.393 looking over application for people who are wanting to open up. 6 00:00:31.176 --> 00:00:31.736 And 7 00:01:21.036 --> 00:01:26.368 interact with can I get a job if I have a green card at 8 00:01:26.378 --> 00:01:33.094 a medical marijuana so there's. In terms of their daily 9 00:01:33.104 --> 00:01:39.468 lives that I think are really important. Relating marijuana. 10 00:01:43.060 --> 00:01:43.450 It was 11 00:01:43.460 --> 00:01:49.100 a very short timeline and I hope that the city devotes more funds to doing additional 12 00:01:49.110 --> 00:01:51.480 outreach Please fill out the card so that we know 13 00:01:51.740 --> 00:01:55.910 a little bit more how to further refine these kinds of outreach event outreach 14 00:01:55.920 --> 00:02:02.860 events like what do you want. To see in the future please let us know. Yeah so 15 00:02:02.870 --> 00:02:03.040 that's 16 00:02:03.050 --> 00:02:06.820 a little bit about the process for getting this we have some amazing panelists and 17 00:02:06.830 --> 00:02:11.820 I'll let our phenomenal moderator to take it away thank you so much got to give it 18 00:02:11.830 --> 00:02:18.760 up for her she did incredible job and. It's so cool 19 00:02:18.770 --> 00:02:22.440 that we get to be here today can you guys hear me awesome I see some head nod 20 00:02:22.450 --> 00:02:28.170 really good perfect My name is deny the emotion and today I'm your moderator. A 21 00:02:28.180 --> 00:02:32.620 little bit about me how I got here to this table of this diocese in this room I 22 00:02:32.630 --> 00:02:38.240 started in Grand Rapids I'm a local I live like 2 blocks that way and I'm 23 00:02:38.250 --> 00:02:41.930 a political consultant here in going up it's ran a lot of campaigns helped 24 00:02:41.940 --> 00:02:44.970 a lot of people get elected founded a PAC had 25 00:02:44.980 --> 00:02:49.440 a radio show where I was talking to specifically people of color about what was 26 00:02:49.450 --> 00:02:53.510 happening politically in greater Grand Rapids in the state of Michigan when 27 00:02:53.520 --> 00:02:57.060 a friend reach out to me about my consulting firm working with the cannabis company 28 00:02:57.580 --> 00:02:58.740 and from there I started doing 29 00:02:58.750 --> 00:03:02.790 a bunch of grassroots engagement around what people's fears were about 30 00:03:02.800 --> 00:03:08.810 a cannabis company or medical marijuana taking root in their neighborhood. And then 31 00:03:08.820 --> 00:03:12.910 I got more involved in cannabis started attending the Michigan Cannabis Industry 32 00:03:12.920 --> 00:03:16.710 Association of events getting involved when I realized that there was this blaring 33 00:03:16.720 --> 00:03:20.450 lack of diversity and I'm from Been harbors have seen 34 00:03:20.460 --> 00:03:24.260 a lot of different types of people before I moved to Grand Rapids and so some 35 00:03:24.270 --> 00:03:26.060 friends and I came together and said we need to start 36 00:03:26.070 --> 00:03:32.110 a black and brown cannabis killed and we did just that so today as I sit here I sit 37 00:03:32.120 --> 00:03:36.370 here with some incredible panelists I'm going to have introduce themselves as well 38 00:03:36.470 --> 00:03:37.660 with the hopes of having 39 00:03:37.670 --> 00:03:42.270 a real robust conversation around how do we get to this point for those of you who 40 00:03:42.280 --> 00:03:46.620 are just now tuning in right as I say on my show so people are just now looking up 41 00:03:46.630 --> 00:03:50.270 in there like well medical marijuana is here recreational is coming down the 42 00:03:50.280 --> 00:03:54.980 pipeline what is this me how do we adjust how do we grow Who are we co-opting into 43 00:03:54.990 --> 00:03:58.900 the opportunity in this industry what are some of our fears and what does this look 44 00:03:58.910 --> 00:04:03.000 like as we all evolve this industry so today we're going to have that conversation 45 00:04:03.010 --> 00:04:06.450 and I'm so excited to get to be your moderator I want to let you know that if you 46 00:04:06.460 --> 00:04:11.380 have a question we are live streaming this and as a social media junkie and 47 00:04:11.390 --> 00:04:14.350 a millennia digital native I am watching the live stream because I'm 48 00:04:14.460 --> 00:04:17.760 a dork like that if you have questions feel free to put those in the comments and 49 00:04:17.900 --> 00:04:21.720 afterwards you see 2 mikes here we're going to invite you guys to come down and do 50 00:04:21.730 --> 00:04:22.110 some Q. 51 00:04:22.120 --> 00:04:26.080 And A with us as well so feel free to jot your questions down if you have them the 52 00:04:26.090 --> 00:04:31.030 see some of the folks not only got questions already and we may touch on them but 53 00:04:31.040 --> 00:04:34.580 at the end we're going to have you guys come down and ask us questions as well 54 00:04:34.700 --> 00:04:39.430 sound that I see more not perfect so with no further ado I would like to start by 55 00:04:39.440 --> 00:04:40.700 having all of our panelists take 56 00:04:40.710 --> 00:04:44.350 a moment and introduce yourselves tole quickly the audience what your story is and 57 00:04:44.360 --> 00:04:47.270 how you got in this room into this table today and if you guys don't mind we're 58 00:04:47.280 --> 00:04:52.070 going to start going left to right my left to right starting with you and it. Has 59 00:04:52.080 --> 00:04:58.790 led to Berkeley city planner here in Grand Rapids and with an elevator the other 60 00:04:58.800 --> 00:04:59.000 have 61 00:04:59.010 --> 00:05:06.020 a team we have so we basically my job changed dramatically about last May when 62 00:05:06.030 --> 00:05:11.100 we were told by this. The commission Yes go ahead and develop another one ordinance 63 00:05:11.270 --> 00:05:15.670 for medical marijuana and so we developed an ordinance very quickly and it went 64 00:05:15.680 --> 00:05:19.720 through the process very very quickly and since then we've been minister in this 65 00:05:19.730 --> 00:05:26.520 ordinance so so my job particular pertains to look asian of the cities and how 66 00:05:26.530 --> 00:05:31.170 those facilities get opened or at least go to the public process really focus on 67 00:05:31.180 --> 00:05:36.710 the sort of zoning aspects and the facility aspects not quite as much the the 68 00:05:36.720 --> 00:05:41.420 personal aspect of things but although that is front and center in our lives turns 69 00:05:42.680 --> 00:05:47.040 Thank you Bruce Block welcome everybody I'm 70 00:05:47.050 --> 00:05:51.580 a trial attorney here in Grand Rapids and I've also been very involved in 71 00:05:51.950 --> 00:05:56.631 a Medical Marijuana Act since 2008. Been doing 72 00:05:56.641 --> 00:05:59.621 a lot of public 27 years I have handled 73 00:05:59.631 --> 00:06:03.641 a lot of medical marijuana defense of this before there was 74 00:06:03.651 --> 00:06:08.461 a recreational course of the 4 there was the facilities Licensing Act and we have 75 00:06:09.121 --> 00:06:14.801 Medical Marijuana Act and. Very familiar on that I've done 76 00:06:14.811 --> 00:06:19.811 a lot of defense and worked with people to try to get them legal under that if 77 00:06:20.271 --> 00:06:25.241 that's even possible and now of course with the facilities Licensing Act and 78 00:06:25.581 --> 00:06:32.111 recreational aspect of marijuana I bring the legal I guess side of 79 00:06:32.121 --> 00:06:38.221 things to the panel. Happy to answer questions and hopefully we'll have some good 80 00:06:38.231 --> 00:06:44.701 ones from the moderator here as well so welcome all. Hello my name is Simone case 81 00:06:45.361 --> 00:06:45.621 I am 82 00:06:45.631 --> 00:06:52.511 a financial advisor to ancillary companies in the cannabis space one is an insurance 83 00:06:52.521 --> 00:06:55.021 company and sure is Agency and I also have 84 00:06:55.031 --> 00:06:58.691 a partner stay and I'm sure it's company in addition to that we have 85 00:06:58.731 --> 00:07:03.501 a financial consulting company and all of them are Senator around cannabis in 86 00:07:03.511 --> 00:07:07.151 addition to that I'm in the planning commissioner Muskegon hikes so I actually get 87 00:07:07.161 --> 00:07:09.641 a chance to approve many of the licenses 88 00:07:09.851 --> 00:07:14.791 a muscle the president of minorities for medical marijuana Michigan State the 89 00:07:14.831 --> 00:07:17.491 chairwoman for in Double A C.P. 90 00:07:18.081 --> 00:07:24.251 Focusing on health and wealth in cannabis and advocate for social equity for black 91 00:07:24.261 --> 00:07:31.231 and brown people in the green rush. Good morning my name is 92 00:07:31.241 --> 00:07:36.341 Richard Jones I'm with disability advocates of can county if you looked at my bio 93 00:07:36.351 --> 00:07:38.191 you would see that I had been retired for 94 00:07:38.201 --> 00:07:42.231 a number of years enjoying retirement and then 95 00:07:42.271 --> 00:07:47.350 a strange thing happened my wife retired also. And yeah. 96 00:07:49.100 --> 00:07:55.610 She decided there were none of this needed to go back to work so. Here I am I was 97 00:07:55.620 --> 00:07:57.710 fortunate enough to get 98 00:07:57.720 --> 00:08:02.640 a connection with disability advocates I have worked in some sort of social work 99 00:08:02.650 --> 00:08:09.360 field for over 50 years. My job really is to make sure that 100 00:08:10.050 --> 00:08:11.610 the disability community has 101 00:08:11.620 --> 00:08:17.490 a voice that we're included in when I say we include myself in that 102 00:08:18.410 --> 00:08:23.240 most of my hearing is gone so looking strangely at you it's because I'm trying to 103 00:08:23.250 --> 00:08:27.760 hear what you're saying. And so it minutely my area of expertise is somewhat 104 00:08:27.770 --> 00:08:32.680 limited but on the other hand I think inclusion is something that all of us need to 105 00:08:32.690 --> 00:08:36.730 be mindful of and hopefully this will be 106 00:08:36.740 --> 00:08:41.180 a productive morning thank you. X. 107 00:08:41.190 --> 00:08:44.740 So I thank you off for that So to start we're going to all get caught up together 108 00:08:44.790 --> 00:08:48.620 right where we're all going to catch up to where we are today so we can briefly 109 00:08:48.630 --> 00:08:52.010 maybe land and we can start with you guys because I know this is more of 110 00:08:52.020 --> 00:08:57.550 a legal process question how do we get here right the process of legal I think 111 00:08:57.790 --> 00:09:03.880 probably why medical marijuana away. How did we get here today to the point where 112 00:09:03.890 --> 00:09:10.140 we have legalized something something. Quite go where those processes that took 113 00:09:10.150 --> 00:09:15.190 place in the state of Michigan and here that led to today where we find Earth me 114 00:09:16.130 --> 00:09:16.480 with it. 115 00:09:23.330 --> 00:09:27.570 So sorry that was one of my notes I just got that. You are going to call it 116 00:09:27.580 --> 00:09:34.040 a bag. OK thank you so much I like her be like her if you have ever present Fabio 117 00:09:34.240 --> 00:09:35.850 just tell me I spent 118 00:09:35.860 --> 00:09:40.170 a lot of time on this some of the give you what I call the nut shell essentially 119 00:09:40.860 --> 00:09:47.790 back in. During in 2000 and. And 8. You had the war 120 00:09:47.800 --> 00:09:51.060 on drugs it was going pretty strong and there was 121 00:09:51.070 --> 00:09:56.770 a lot of people in the state that wanted to. Get marrow they wanted to get 122 00:09:56.780 --> 00:09:58.100 marijuana at least 123 00:09:58.110 --> 00:10:02.310 a foothold they wanted there to be medical So they went and collected ballot 124 00:10:02.320 --> 00:10:08.580 signatures and eventually the voters overwhelmingly passed the Medical Marijuana 125 00:10:08.590 --> 00:10:14.420 Act of 2008 the way that was set up was crazy it was never intended to be 126 00:10:14.470 --> 00:10:19.270 a permanent fix this was the time when the federal government which you know I 127 00:10:19.280 --> 00:10:23.430 think we would all be remiss not to point out that under federal law there is no 128 00:10:23.440 --> 00:10:29.130 such thing you can't have marijuana for any reason and we're going back to the Bush 129 00:10:29.140 --> 00:10:35.040 presidency and the war on drugs and so their goal was to scatter the medical 130 00:10:35.050 --> 00:10:38.800 marijuana can people here mill go back there if not just wave your hand the goal 131 00:10:38.810 --> 00:10:42.030 was to spread this is far and as wide as possible if you have 132 00:10:42.040 --> 00:10:47.800 a spread grass seed they wanted to get so many patients and so many caregivers that 133 00:10:47.810 --> 00:10:53.750 the feds would just simply cry uncle. That's why you have the caregiver and you can 134 00:10:53.760 --> 00:10:56.780 have 5 patients but he can never have more than 2 and 135 00:10:56.790 --> 00:11:01.350 a half ounces per patient under the medical act of 2008 and they wanted to spread 136 00:11:01.360 --> 00:11:03.940 as far as why it's possible and frankly it was 137 00:11:03.950 --> 00:11:08.850 a success unless the government's going to suspend habeas corpus and put in 138 00:11:08.860 --> 00:11:14.180 concentration camps you cannot possibly prosecute 300000 people it's just not 139 00:11:14.190 --> 00:11:21.110 physically doable unless they would hire. $300.00 judges and 140 00:11:21.120 --> 00:11:25.100 prosecutors that the whole system would collapse in on itself so what the feds did 141 00:11:25.110 --> 00:11:30.680 is they just kind of steps. Did what they did in Colorado in California they said 142 00:11:30.690 --> 00:11:34.210 Well as long as you kind of just keep it in your state we're going to back off and 143 00:11:34.220 --> 00:11:39.550 they have infected that but you have to remember back in 2008 when this passed they 144 00:11:39.560 --> 00:11:43.850 were busting people they were incarcerating people I was I handled one of the last 145 00:11:43.860 --> 00:11:50.700 cases back then in 2009 there was 40 people involved in marijuana that was 146 00:11:50.710 --> 00:11:55.260 going. And you would have thought that we'd shut the federal judiciary system down 147 00:11:55.270 --> 00:12:00.940 here locally it was so hard to process 40 people and so we come from 148 00:12:01.120 --> 00:12:04.880 2008 and they scatter it as far as why it's all of 149 00:12:04.890 --> 00:12:11.280 a sudden you got 260000 patients and you get $60000.00 caregivers and the feds back 150 00:12:11.290 --> 00:12:15.910 off which was the whole idea and the goal then was OK we're going to get 151 00:12:15.920 --> 00:12:21.160 a foot in the door then we eventually want to go to recreational. In between there 152 00:12:21.170 --> 00:12:26.840 in 2016 year we had the facilities licensing at the state finally got off the. Rear 153 00:12:26.850 --> 00:12:31.310 end and decided you know maybe we could make some money on this and let's set up 154 00:12:31.320 --> 00:12:37.650 a scheme to regulate it and tax it and whatever. They did really crummy job of it 155 00:12:37.730 --> 00:12:39.620 and made it just the bottom possible unless you're 156 00:12:39.630 --> 00:12:46.600 a millionaire to do it and then we had another ballot proposal. Which everyone I'm 157 00:12:46.610 --> 00:12:52.760 sure is well aware of Prop one which didn't legalize marijuana OK and that's 158 00:12:52.770 --> 00:12:58.890 a point made making throughout the morning it didn't legalize it OK marijuana is 159 00:12:58.900 --> 00:13:05.690 not illegal you're just immune from prosecution if you do what you were told to do 160 00:13:05.800 --> 00:13:10.540 in other words you can't smoke in public for example but the last bill there the 161 00:13:10.550 --> 00:13:16.080 criminal laws are still there and if you step outside of the community so to speak 162 00:13:16.830 --> 00:13:23.701 you get popped. So that is essentially how we get from 2008 to 163 00:13:23.711 --> 00:13:28.341 2016 to 2018 frankly I think the state did 164 00:13:28.351 --> 00:13:35.101 a marvelous job of really messing things up in 2016 and I think the people are just 165 00:13:35.111 --> 00:13:37.561 fed up with it and said we want to record do 166 00:13:37.571 --> 00:13:42.931 a recreational act and we're going to we're going to just make it so you don't have 167 00:13:42.941 --> 00:13:48.161 to go to the doc get doctors and register with the stay in that type of thing. What 168 00:13:48.171 --> 00:13:50.641 time but that's kind of a you will 169 00:13:50.651 --> 00:13:57.651 a history of how we got here California had done marijuana 10 years earlier 170 00:13:57.821 --> 00:13:58.011 and 171 00:13:58.021 --> 00:14:04.571 a lot of other states had Michigan was the 1st on Midwest in the past by 65 percent 172 00:14:05.231 --> 00:14:11.930 which was the highest rate of passage of any state in the union still is. As far as 173 00:14:11.940 --> 00:14:15.170 Grand Rapids goes in 2008 when I'm 174 00:14:15.180 --> 00:14:19.760 a passed so again that was the act that allowed for medical marijuana in general 175 00:14:20.300 --> 00:14:25.630 with patients and caregivers model we developed an ordinance that time allowed for 176 00:14:25.640 --> 00:14:29.360 caregivers to the doesn't touch patients at all but 177 00:14:29.370 --> 00:14:31.920 a love for caregivers to grow plants as 178 00:14:31.930 --> 00:14:38.450 a home occupation if they're licensed by the state. So that allow them for to have 179 00:14:38.460 --> 00:14:44.910 home grow in their attic or basement or whatever might be. So that was in 2008 180 00:14:44.920 --> 00:14:49.380 maybe that maybe 2100 passed out locally in our zoning ordinance that's forward 181 00:14:49.390 --> 00:14:50.760 several years there was 182 00:14:50.770 --> 00:14:56.840 a lawsuit actually based environs center that questioned the challenge I guess of 183 00:14:57.400 --> 00:15:04.090 regulating that kind of use of the home occupation and. The municipality lost that 184 00:15:04.100 --> 00:15:10.280 case so the city responded most recently when we passed the next ordinance by 185 00:15:10.290 --> 00:15:15.490 removing that almighty patients so we used to regulate the patient caregiver model 186 00:15:15.500 --> 00:15:22.160 we don't anymore. In 2016 when the and the. Medical facilities 187 00:15:22.170 --> 00:15:28.450 Licensing Act to allow the different kinds of facilities. We developed an ordinance 188 00:15:28.460 --> 00:15:34.130 of the time. That we would put those 5 types of facilities into the zoning 189 00:15:34.140 --> 00:15:37.260 ordinance that's grower processor provisioning Center which is 190 00:15:37.270 --> 00:15:42.300 a retailer safety compliance facility to test the products and then secure 191 00:15:42.310 --> 00:15:47.890 transport we developed of the time but didn't go anywhere in the City Commission 192 00:15:47.900 --> 00:15:54.550 said no thank you not right now so that was in in 2016 early 2017 and 193 00:15:54.560 --> 00:16:01.270 then in April of I think 20 actually of 2018 the we 194 00:16:01.310 --> 00:16:03.060 heard that there was potentially 195 00:16:03.070 --> 00:16:08.200 a ballot initiative that would that would allow for all these these uses in the 196 00:16:08.210 --> 00:16:13.840 city and the City Commission said OK it's coming let's develop an ordinance. Go 197 00:16:13.850 --> 00:16:19.971 ahead plan department so we put together an ordinance in what. What from a from 198 00:16:19.981 --> 00:16:26.301 a city planner perspective was super fast in like 2 or 3 months to an outsider 199 00:16:26.311 --> 00:16:32.111 might feel like it was just dragging on forever. But in the planning world 2 or 3 200 00:16:32.121 --> 00:16:35.031 months is not very fast to develop an ordinance or 201 00:16:35.091 --> 00:16:39.921 a safe never slow it's it's very fast and trying to have some sort of meaningful 202 00:16:39.931 --> 00:16:43.981 public engagement while you're developing an ordinance. That was 203 00:16:43.991 --> 00:16:49.501 a present time line so July and July 28th mean we passed of zoning ordinance 204 00:16:49.511 --> 00:16:54.601 amendment to allow for all 5 times uses that were enabled by the facilities 205 00:16:54.611 --> 00:17:00.611 Licensing Act. Then a couple months later we were receiving 206 00:17:00.621 --> 00:17:04.501 a lot of different comments from the community and from people wanted to open 207 00:17:04.511 --> 00:17:10.351 businesses from land uses near those business locations. Basically telling us of 208 00:17:10.361 --> 00:17:15.551 their problems with the ordinance. So then we had some more discussion with the 209 00:17:15.561 --> 00:17:19.211 city commission more discussion the public and changed the ordinance in December. 210 00:17:20.401 --> 00:17:25.531 To sort of try to find 2 things ended up with the ordinance we have today which is 211 00:17:25.541 --> 00:17:30.701 not simple by any means it's pretty complex. But it is what it is. 212 00:17:32.601 --> 00:17:37.141 April of this year. We had to draw sort of 213 00:17:37.151 --> 00:17:43.251 a lot of lottery to help get applications for different. Types in line to go to the 214 00:17:43.261 --> 00:17:49.621 Planning Commission we opened applications in in March at the draw on April and and 215 00:17:49.631 --> 00:17:54.761 heard the 1st case Planning Commission in May. So we had about 9 of the other 216 00:17:54.771 --> 00:18:00.391 patients in the 1st couple weeks of March right now that that list is down quite 217 00:18:00.401 --> 00:18:05.411 a bit less because the way the ordinances is structured and I'm not going to go 218 00:18:05.421 --> 00:18:09.071 into detail on that just suffice to say that we allow 5 types there is 219 00:18:09.081 --> 00:18:14.531 a competitive process and some patients are really knocked out by others so I think 220 00:18:14.541 --> 00:18:21.331 we probably have maybe 4 left on the queue I think we've. We approved 11 up 221 00:18:21.341 --> 00:18:28.341 until this point. That are in various state stages of actually getting started and 222 00:18:28.351 --> 00:18:32.201 also the losses due to that I'm that and then wrote 223 00:18:32.211 --> 00:18:34.651 a book as far as record was so you made 224 00:18:34.661 --> 00:18:40.261 a prop one passed in November 1 into effect in December and the City Commission 225 00:18:40.271 --> 00:18:44.011 said we're not going to touch that quite yet we want to see how medical works out 226 00:18:44.361 --> 00:18:44.581 there is 227 00:18:44.591 --> 00:18:48.581 a timeline I'm sure we can speak about shortly but there is some work some sense of 228 00:18:48.591 --> 00:18:52.971 urgency that the city commission has to make some decision and recreational fairly 229 00:18:52.981 --> 00:18:58.661 soon we expect it to happen in the next month or 2 I don't know how it's going to 230 00:18:58.671 --> 00:19:01.651 happen I can speculate but you have to make 231 00:19:01.661 --> 00:19:06.051 a decision by November 1st though so that's the thing because the state because the 232 00:19:06.061 --> 00:19:10.631 statute requires that cities. That the state starts taking that license out 233 00:19:10.641 --> 00:19:15.271 occasions on November 1st so 2019 the city needs to have an ordinance in place 234 00:19:15.381 --> 00:19:20.741 which is to regulate those those lists types so going to have to do something and 235 00:19:20.751 --> 00:19:24.001 that's the sense of urgency we've been trying to part of the city commission and I 236 00:19:24.011 --> 00:19:28.681 believe that they're hearing us and going to start taking actions and I know that 237 00:19:28.691 --> 00:19:32.861 this particular event that you all are attending today is put on both by the city 238 00:19:32.871 --> 00:19:35.671 of Grand Rapids and the King County Health Department so we may have some people 239 00:19:35.681 --> 00:19:38.981 here while we're speaking from the line that amounts to going to bed who live in 240 00:19:38.991 --> 00:19:42.771 camp wood or who live in walker or who live in Byron center that is within the 241 00:19:42.781 --> 00:19:45.961 jurisdiction of the Kent County Health Department where this may not apply because 242 00:19:45.971 --> 00:19:49.641 so many communities in this area have opted out right it's essential we're talking 243 00:19:49.651 --> 00:19:55.281 about is whether or not we need to pallet evil opt out recreational and so and 244 00:19:55.291 --> 00:19:59.451 that's an ongoing conversation that people can have with their local city 245 00:19:59.461 --> 00:20:03.751 commission which is hey if it passed overwhelmingly in our community why are we 246 00:20:03.761 --> 00:20:06.561 acting now what is it look like to reverse that decision there are so many 247 00:20:06.571 --> 00:20:10.721 different processes that so many local communities are undergoing right now all 248 00:20:10.731 --> 00:20:13.601 across the state of Michigan and that's you know 249 00:20:13.611 --> 00:20:16.461 a follow up for people who are interested in that that's the fund where the 250 00:20:16.471 --> 00:20:20.121 grassroots ballot initiative where we cannot talk about Headley. There but 251 00:20:20.131 --> 00:20:24.601 a follow up question for you Landon You mentioned that the process has been wheeled 252 00:20:24.611 --> 00:20:30.731 down for applications of medical marijuana application applicants at the Planning 253 00:20:30.741 --> 00:20:34.741 Commission level that you started with about 19 and today you see about 40 how many 254 00:20:34.751 --> 00:20:38.081 lines of that because I get this question so much in the community I would be 255 00:20:38.091 --> 00:20:38.411 sitting in 256 00:20:38.421 --> 00:20:41.101 a neighborhood association meetings and I'd be like well how many are we going to 257 00:20:41.111 --> 00:20:41.941 have is it going to be 258 00:20:41.951 --> 00:20:47.591 a can of this though or on every corner so how many licenses do you feed the city 259 00:20:47.601 --> 00:20:51.291 of Grand Rapids approving and what would that look like what do we cost saturation 260 00:20:51.301 --> 00:20:54.061 in grammatic. So the ordinance doesn't have 261 00:20:54.071 --> 00:21:00.731 a cap the Michigan facilities Licensing Act allows communities to opt in or opt out 262 00:21:00.741 --> 00:21:01.651 and if they opt in to set 263 00:21:01.661 --> 00:21:08.201 a cap other this many maximum licenses are this Minox and each. Of the ordinance 264 00:21:08.211 --> 00:21:11.671 does not have a cat however there is 265 00:21:11.681 --> 00:21:15.831 a separation distance model so you have several different land use types so you 266 00:21:15.841 --> 00:21:16.511 have to be at least 267 00:21:16.521 --> 00:21:21.071 a 1000 feet from or in some cases 2000 to be something as the 1000 feet on the same 268 00:21:21.081 --> 00:21:23.881 street. But basically as land you say it's 269 00:21:23.891 --> 00:21:29.851 a residential zoning churches schools childcare centers purse parks that probably 270 00:21:29.861 --> 00:21:34.101 on parks playgrounds and they will feel right now but going on right yes yes yes 271 00:21:34.111 --> 00:21:37.871 yes kind of their games here they know that yeah backed up on Tuesday night we had 272 00:21:37.881 --> 00:21:41.771 a public hearing at the city commission level about how they're going to recommend 273 00:21:42.181 --> 00:21:48.410 their parks waivers from parks and so. I can't say 274 00:21:48.710 --> 00:21:55.120 necessarily I can guess my best guess is that we'll have probably 25 to 30 275 00:21:55.130 --> 00:22:00.410 standalone provisioning centers the retail sales of medical marijuana. And my best 276 00:22:00.420 --> 00:22:05.940 guess also is that we may see 10 to 15 grow facilities sometimes with 277 00:22:05.950 --> 00:22:09.450 a provisioning center co-located on the same property sometimes not sometimes in 278 00:22:09.460 --> 00:22:13.720 the process and we don't have any Cabernets separation doesn't torrents for 279 00:22:13.730 --> 00:22:20.610 separation or for testing labs or for secure transporters those tend to be taken 280 00:22:20.620 --> 00:22:26.660 differently because they have very little impact them to do so. Although. 281 00:22:29.793 --> 00:22:34.133 Everyone is looking at the map to find out the separation business game and has as 282 00:22:34.143 --> 00:22:38.723 many parcels as are available and potentially eligible someone's trying to get in 283 00:22:38.733 --> 00:22:42.533 there so we definitely have people who are trying to max out the map Max on the 284 00:22:42.543 --> 00:22:44.323 number of facilities how on 285 00:22:44.333 --> 00:22:51.201 a plane out is. So and thank you for that for expertise so 286 00:22:51.581 --> 00:22:57.381 Grand Rapids is very diverse and we know here in our city we have. A lot of times 287 00:22:57.391 --> 00:23:00.511 from our leaders make these really progressive ideals 288 00:23:00.551 --> 00:23:04.481 a goal right being diverse being intentional about making sure we're educating 289 00:23:04.491 --> 00:23:08.191 people around how these different policies disproportionately affect different 290 00:23:08.201 --> 00:23:11.191 types of communities so that line I know had 291 00:23:11.201 --> 00:23:14.261 a kind of opened up saying that we wanted to talk about how do these laws kind of 292 00:23:14.301 --> 00:23:18.221 overlap of different populations when it comes pacifically to 293 00:23:18.641 --> 00:23:23.001 a lot of what we're seeing in greater Grand Rapids around immigration reform the 294 00:23:23.011 --> 00:23:27.191 immigrant community how would these different communities be impacted by some of 295 00:23:27.201 --> 00:23:34.201 the legislation that if you want to start. It and again my. My 296 00:23:34.241 --> 00:23:38.731 areas of expertise are somewhat limited but but they actually you know folks with 297 00:23:38.741 --> 00:23:45.101 disabilities intersect most every other demographic group. And so what happens to 298 00:23:45.111 --> 00:23:49.041 them after that happens to other groups also we're talking about diversity in 299 00:23:49.051 --> 00:23:55.351 equity in inclusion. And quite frankly part of my job 300 00:23:55.741 --> 00:24:00.181 is to make sure that when we're talking about these things and we're talking about 301 00:24:00.191 --> 00:24:06.952 laws and ordinances and codes in opt in an opt out at some point that 302 00:24:06.962 --> 00:24:13.452 gets down to a personal level with people who have names it impacts them OK as 303 00:24:13.462 --> 00:24:15.952 a new business opens up can a person with 304 00:24:15.962 --> 00:24:20.332 a disability even get in the door are there steps that are in the way is there 305 00:24:20.342 --> 00:24:25.132 a ramp is the door wide enough is the counter to higher too low. 306 00:24:27.780 --> 00:24:33.840 Those are kind of concrete things that impact the disability community but there's 307 00:24:34.080 --> 00:24:40.730 other things because of the uncertainty of things many of our folks. Are on 308 00:24:40.740 --> 00:24:46.200 entitlements they're on disability or food stamps or things like that and so is the 309 00:24:46.210 --> 00:24:52.160 fact that the federal law and the state law conflict. Does that put some of their 310 00:24:52.170 --> 00:24:57.140 federal entitlement in jeopardy if this is not a this is not 311 00:24:57.150 --> 00:25:02.480 a kind and loving political climate right now and so is this something else that 312 00:25:02.490 --> 00:25:06.450 could be used against our folks I guess is one of the things that we look at. 313 00:25:09.972 --> 00:25:16.533 If and the other thing that I'm not sure this happens every every time we make 314 00:25:16.543 --> 00:25:20.553 a decision is that we always don't get all the collateral things to begin with some 315 00:25:20.563 --> 00:25:26.916 of the things we don't even think about. The society is aging 10000 baby boomers 316 00:25:26.926 --> 00:25:33.626 turn 65 every day and that's going to happen for the next 17 years. So how does 317 00:25:33.636 --> 00:25:40.469 that how does that impact how does that impact our society. What does that do 318 00:25:41.129 --> 00:25:47.679 when when new laws are passed in new markets develop. I don't know we don't know 319 00:25:47.689 --> 00:25:49.969 yet our hope is that we'll always have 320 00:25:49.979 --> 00:25:56.279 a voice and we'll be able to. We'll be able to have our input but those are 321 00:25:56.979 --> 00:25:59.829 those are things at least from the disability community those are 322 00:25:59.839 --> 00:26:05.619 a few of the things that we think about access inclusion. Does How much does it 323 00:26:05.629 --> 00:26:12.230 help us and how much does it harm us is there the potential for harm. OK 324 00:26:12.830 --> 00:26:19.600 for me yes I would take 2 financial kind of places on this so the 1st thing as far 325 00:26:19.610 --> 00:26:24.630 as immigrants if you are not a U.S. Citizen outside of being a U.S. 326 00:26:24.640 --> 00:26:30.190 Citizen and he said this is still illegal so you jeopardize actually being able to 327 00:26:30.200 --> 00:26:31.830 remain in the U.S. 328 00:26:31.940 --> 00:26:32.540 So if you have 329 00:26:32.550 --> 00:26:36.670 a green card or what have you that means any participation in earned income 330 00:26:36.950 --> 00:26:37.470 receiving 331 00:26:37.480 --> 00:26:42.560 a job or entrepreneurship can actually hinder you from being able to remain in this 332 00:26:42.570 --> 00:26:43.350 country that's 333 00:26:43.360 --> 00:26:47.780 a big big deal and we have to look at this because in addition to that we also have 334 00:26:47.820 --> 00:26:53.650 expungement piece that was taken of one when it was actually pushed through so what 335 00:26:53.660 --> 00:26:58.440 that means is that we know that black and brown people are 3 to 3 to 4 times more 336 00:26:58.450 --> 00:27:04.010 likely to be arrested so someone who was an emigrant who was holding marijuana at 337 00:27:04.020 --> 00:27:09.090 some point in time is $3.00 to $4.00 more times likely to actually be convicted and 338 00:27:09.100 --> 00:27:14.090 arrested of having possession of marijuana what that does is it totally intil we 339 00:27:14.330 --> 00:27:16.120 expunge and create 340 00:27:16.130 --> 00:27:21.740 a pathway for them to become entrepreneurs and or and and and and to be able to 341 00:27:21.750 --> 00:27:23.680 have an income we exclude 342 00:27:23.690 --> 00:27:29.891 a whole group of people so major issue. Thank you so much 343 00:27:30.321 --> 00:27:33.431 so recently the state of Michigan and it's actually going to start here in the I'm 344 00:27:33.441 --> 00:27:36.071 going to circle back to this question about the changes that we see coming down the 345 00:27:36.081 --> 00:27:40.011 pipeline the dissemination of information is power I thought he would knowledge is 346 00:27:40.021 --> 00:27:42.991 power and the more I learned about the cannabis industry the more I learned that 347 00:27:43.001 --> 00:27:45.471 things change at the drop of a hat I was just laughing at 348 00:27:45.481 --> 00:27:49.201 a directive with well I was going to run 4th of July by dropping this memo changing 349 00:27:49.211 --> 00:27:50.641 the way we do everything you know have 350 00:27:50.651 --> 00:27:55.861 a great holiday and that happens all the time and in this industry because it's so 351 00:27:55.871 --> 00:28:00.531 new in an emerging market it's hard to stay up on what changes every from week to 352 00:28:00.541 --> 00:28:04.851 week from day to day and for the government of course engagement is always 353 00:28:04.861 --> 00:28:09.161 a hurdle how are we reaching people but specifically in the cannabis industry how 354 00:28:09.171 --> 00:28:13.321 do people who want to stay abreast of these changes stay aware outside of being 355 00:28:13.331 --> 00:28:14.321 a part of a guild or 356 00:28:14.331 --> 00:28:17.891 a group like we have on Facebook where we're constantly posting the updates how do 357 00:28:17.901 --> 00:28:23.071 people stay in abreast of all the changes that happen day to day at the state level 358 00:28:23.391 --> 00:28:26.541 and of course at the city level outside of just calling the planning department 359 00:28:26.551 --> 00:28:28.891 like every day and saying hey did you guys change the map can I get 360 00:28:28.901 --> 00:28:33.131 a copy of this due diligence Yes So what does that look like what you're 361 00:28:33.141 --> 00:28:38.141 recommended way of staying abreast are there. Certain resources that you guys 362 00:28:38.151 --> 00:28:41.151 recommend. Social media is 363 00:28:41.161 --> 00:28:45.581 a big part of the cannabis industry if you're not participating in social media 364 00:28:46.031 --> 00:28:50.491 because it was so underground for so long social media has really become 365 00:28:51.171 --> 00:28:55.211 underground where road and where you kind of get information and the thing is that 366 00:28:55.221 --> 00:29:00.301 we also look for other companies to be able to network with and be able to host 367 00:29:00.311 --> 00:29:05.531 events I founded that if you don't even have the we plant or in your logo or it was 368 00:29:05.541 --> 00:29:09.361 not green nobody wants to deal with you it doesn't matter would you still would you 369 00:29:09.371 --> 00:29:15.121 have to really kind of promote in that sector what else would I say networking 370 00:29:15.131 --> 00:29:21.701 social social media which is really big. And those will probably be it because it 371 00:29:21.711 --> 00:29:23.251 is so new and it is such 372 00:29:23.501 --> 00:29:30.021 a nice type of environment and so I think people are still worried. Outreach So 373 00:29:30.161 --> 00:29:36.071 those would probably be my go to would be the actual social media groups and then 374 00:29:36.081 --> 00:29:40.961 any kind of networking groups and then making sure that you join any newsletters or 375 00:29:40.971 --> 00:29:44.221 publications and be is there's quite 376 00:29:44.231 --> 00:29:49.541 a bit of publications that actually share updates about what's going on just in 377 00:29:49.551 --> 00:29:55.353 Michigan so that would be much of. It. 378 00:29:56.623 --> 00:30:00.063 Well the other thing I think that is really important is that there's 379 00:30:00.073 --> 00:30:02.793 a lot of misinformation out there do you really get 380 00:30:02.803 --> 00:30:08.833 a look at your source where it's coming from I mean the the best honestly the bus 381 00:30:08.843 --> 00:30:11.163 the information you could get as you come to 382 00:30:11.173 --> 00:30:17.403 a lawyer that gets e-mails every single day even on the weekends about this I'm not 383 00:30:17.553 --> 00:30:21.203 aware of any particular groups I'm sure they're out there but you really gotta 384 00:30:21.213 --> 00:30:27.305 watch out for because there's an awful lot of I mean I peruse the internet just to 385 00:30:27.315 --> 00:30:32.095 see what's out there and I'm always shocked at the things that are being exposed as 386 00:30:32.105 --> 00:30:39.001 all that's the law and now that's not. So I don't know of any particular groups 387 00:30:39.831 --> 00:30:45.761 or email lists service. For the general public but they've got to be out there I 388 00:30:45.771 --> 00:30:48.091 would think and that wouldn't I would be the best way about 389 00:30:48.101 --> 00:30:52.311 a really look at where this coming from I'm looking at my phone now I'm like trying 390 00:30:52.321 --> 00:30:55.151 to see I'm part of like 20 different cannabis groups and you read the off something 391 00:30:55.161 --> 00:31:01.231 green in the logo but. And this this changes I think you especially for these 392 00:31:01.241 --> 00:31:05.021 groups right there are groups for on Facebook and Instagram for people that are 393 00:31:05.031 --> 00:31:09.061 looking to connect to the professionals their group specifically for hiring and 394 00:31:09.071 --> 00:31:11.081 what I've learned is that you follow all these different groups as 395 00:31:11.091 --> 00:31:15.131 a lot of them have the same trend we can't find supply Who are you guys going to 396 00:31:15.141 --> 00:31:18.601 what are prices right now and that ongoing conversation everything from what's 397 00:31:18.611 --> 00:31:23.291 happening legally to who's going to cannabis cup in Detroit right here in the 398 00:31:23.301 --> 00:31:24.461 cannabis legal group is 399 00:31:24.471 --> 00:31:28.921 a good one they advise and work with the Michigan regular marijuana regulatory 400 00:31:28.931 --> 00:31:29.541 agency quite 401 00:31:29.551 --> 00:31:33.361 a bit I follow them and they give lives they do law they do you know I was once 402 00:31:33.371 --> 00:31:37.941 a week every week legally so that's always a go yep so the cannabis legal group is 403 00:31:37.951 --> 00:31:41.291 a good one Michigan professionals are cannabis network is another good one I'm just 404 00:31:41.301 --> 00:31:44.051 what I'm going to do is probably afterwards after this on the live stream I'll just 405 00:31:44.061 --> 00:31:44.261 drop 406 00:31:44.271 --> 00:31:46.621 a link to all the different groups and if you guys are on the Facebook group you 407 00:31:46.631 --> 00:31:50.521 guys can just add yourself because I believe in social media again has not digital 408 00:31:50.531 --> 00:31:54.581 native and nyc Like I said knowledge is power we can't do this every day we don't 409 00:31:54.591 --> 00:31:58.171 know that city is going to do this every week but while we're here we can share 410 00:31:58.181 --> 00:32:01.841 resources so we can all stay abreast of what's happening it is one thing that it 411 00:32:01.851 --> 00:32:05.151 seems like there's a lot of information out there that's just 412 00:32:05.161 --> 00:32:09.811 a record for people wanting to get into the industry typically as like 413 00:32:09.821 --> 00:32:15.520 a business owner operator and not so much as for the average citizen saying. Things 414 00:32:15.530 --> 00:32:20.490 look much like this was legal was not how do I don't agree with both system and and 415 00:32:20.500 --> 00:32:24.100 so I think that it's a lot easier to go out and say I want to open 416 00:32:24.110 --> 00:32:29.880 a grow or get their laws around that. I guess I really are very old for the very 417 00:32:29.890 --> 00:32:36.310 1st I oughtn't to be portrayed or you know trouble. And it was that's kind of why 418 00:32:36.320 --> 00:32:40.550 we did this and so you jumped on the scrap saying wow we can get you some 419 00:32:40.560 --> 00:32:47.040 educational sessions including ones next week and Friday. You know if we can do 420 00:32:47.050 --> 00:32:50.240 some educational sessions talking about what's legal how as an average citizen 421 00:32:50.250 --> 00:32:55.650 going to be involved or make sure you understand what's legal. There are some some 422 00:32:55.660 --> 00:32:59.080 more resources out there that I think the problem is that there is movement 423 00:32:59.090 --> 00:33:05.040 information and things are changing. Good luck So what do you guys say is like the 424 00:33:05.050 --> 00:33:09.800 primary impact of medical marijuana in this new law just on the everyday for. 425 00:33:12.240 --> 00:33:16.680 The practically impact is that we've had you know since the war on drugs when it 426 00:33:16.840 --> 00:33:22.550 a really started in the Nixon administration there's been no actual kind of 427 00:33:22.560 --> 00:33:27.900 research for science based about around the benefits of marijuana and now as we see 428 00:33:27.910 --> 00:33:28.590 the big boys 429 00:33:28.600 --> 00:33:34.530 a really major corporations or the really big ones that we actually invested those 430 00:33:34.570 --> 00:33:39.780 they're now able to put in research and give us science based benefits on their 23 431 00:33:39.790 --> 00:33:42.320 different ailments that are going on so that's 432 00:33:42.330 --> 00:33:49.120 a big big thing as he said is 10000 baby boomers that are turning 65 every 433 00:33:49.130 --> 00:33:54.090 day these are the the major people who are switching from opiate based drugs which 434 00:33:54.100 --> 00:33:59.120 we've seen what is done to our communities to benefits around medical marijuana so 435 00:33:59.130 --> 00:34:04.090 just that in that instance of being able to have an alternative that is not. 436 00:34:05.800 --> 00:34:11.060 Based that is not cannabis that's cannabinoid which we naturally have in our body 437 00:34:11.310 --> 00:34:16.760 outside of having opiate drugs which has. Which oftentimes because becomes 438 00:34:16.770 --> 00:34:17.810 addictive so 439 00:34:17.820 --> 00:34:23.500 a great benefit for cancer lupus even though I've seen some benefits of V. 440 00:34:23.710 --> 00:34:28.900 All of those things are one are 2023 different treatments so I think that in itself 441 00:34:28.940 --> 00:34:34.770 is a major move to be able to no longer falsely occlude accuse it of being 442 00:34:34.780 --> 00:34:41.340 a bad drug and see the benefits behind it well and clearly the number of criminal 443 00:34:41.350 --> 00:34:45.920 cases that are being filed have just dramatically drop to they've just plummeted 444 00:34:46.760 --> 00:34:52.270 the cases that I used to see for possession of marijuana use of marijuana even some 445 00:34:52.280 --> 00:34:58.230 of the felony. Cases have does dramatically drop I don't have statistics or numbers 446 00:34:58.240 --> 00:35:04.810 on of those laws to new but it's just dropped out of sight. It's 447 00:35:05.460 --> 00:35:07.820 law and I think that's a good thing it's a good I think it's 448 00:35:07.830 --> 00:35:12.270 a good thing you know we've been this war on drugs I think we just need to declare 449 00:35:12.280 --> 00:35:19.060 victory and at least on marijuana and just just move on from it. But clearly 450 00:35:19.070 --> 00:35:19.410 there's been 451 00:35:19.420 --> 00:35:24.100 a human among us tremendous drop in the number of people being charged with crimes 452 00:35:24.110 --> 00:35:30.301 and incarcerated for it because now you can have it if you do and follow all the 453 00:35:30.311 --> 00:35:36.160 right steps which we can get into maybe today at some point. So so for the average 454 00:35:36.170 --> 00:35:41.490 person who just wants to know today what is vs what isn't legal for if I just want 455 00:35:41.500 --> 00:35:43.700 to go to the V.A. 456 00:35:43.710 --> 00:35:44.390 Shop and buy 457 00:35:44.400 --> 00:35:49.190 a pipe and smoke cannabis on my porch and where can I legally get it or can I 458 00:35:49.200 --> 00:35:53.960 legally where can I drive work can I do we talk about wearing can't County and how 459 00:35:53.970 --> 00:35:59.950 linking County and in Grand Rapids people access marijuana what's legal do it at 460 00:35:59.960 --> 00:36:06.950 your house. You know you can't smoke in public. That is. Number 461 00:36:06.960 --> 00:36:12.910 one rule of the medical act or the recreational act you cannot smoke in public and 462 00:36:13.620 --> 00:36:20.482 your front porch is not public at least. It shouldn't be public should not 463 00:36:20.812 --> 00:36:25.552 look but maybe your back porch would be better. But we have conversations and this 464 00:36:25.562 --> 00:36:26.792 is this is a real question 465 00:36:26.802 --> 00:36:30.152 a real conversation I remember sitting out in the West Grand they were the filthy 466 00:36:30.162 --> 00:36:35.412 action and they were just like you know people are going to have this have access 467 00:36:35.422 --> 00:36:38.512 to this outside of just smoking if they're going to be eating cannabis everything 468 00:36:38.522 --> 00:36:41.962 there can be cannabis everywhere in the little pins and that's the moment of 469 00:36:41.972 --> 00:36:46.702 calling the little pens they ever going to have little pens and that leaves that 470 00:36:46.712 --> 00:36:50.892 legal can they have the Pens everywhere. What do you say to the people who have 471 00:36:50.902 --> 00:36:54.862 questions specifically about the broader spectrum of ingesting marijuana outside of 472 00:36:54.872 --> 00:37:01.853 just smoking it. OK. OK 473 00:37:01.863 --> 00:37:07.633 So pretty much your consumption is that it's big now and I guess we got to kind of 474 00:37:07.643 --> 00:37:13.363 think about it as as alcohol right so unless until we get into our special 475 00:37:14.243 --> 00:37:18.023 special events in our cafes and all of the other stuff that we're looking for with 476 00:37:18.033 --> 00:37:23.453 the recreational as of today you can't be just drinking out on the street and just 477 00:37:23.463 --> 00:37:27.853 you know so don't do it you know you can't just get you know ever so you want to be 478 00:37:27.863 --> 00:37:31.913 in the confines of your own home that's the safest way for you to be able to do it 479 00:37:32.583 --> 00:37:33.963 that's the 1st thing it lets you have 480 00:37:33.973 --> 00:37:40.501 a marijuana now. If you are not if you are an apartment don't understand it 481 00:37:40.911 --> 00:37:42.671 if you don't own that you don't have 482 00:37:42.681 --> 00:37:48.531 a mortgage on your landlord has the right to tell you I don't want to do it because 483 00:37:48.541 --> 00:37:54.051 they own that facility they own that building so you can't get men to say Oh well I 484 00:37:54.061 --> 00:37:58.671 think you know I can do it anyplace else not I think you're you can't do that so it 485 00:37:58.681 --> 00:38:02.311 should be in the confines of your own home you know what about legalities around 486 00:38:02.321 --> 00:38:05.991 age even I've had parents as anyone know you my aunt had 487 00:38:06.001 --> 00:38:07.301 a condition and if they have 488 00:38:07.311 --> 00:38:14.123 a condition what are the laws around that so as far as I know. You're supposed to 489 00:38:14.133 --> 00:38:18.243 get. A doctor like autism right so you have 490 00:38:18.253 --> 00:38:23.213 a child has autism they've been diagnosed with autism the doctor has approved it 491 00:38:23.223 --> 00:38:26.143 then at that point you can submit and have someone write 492 00:38:26.153 --> 00:38:30.013 a prescription for that child that child is then being able to prove you have 493 00:38:30.023 --> 00:38:34.253 a medical card for the child and then they can be issued marijuana and whatever 494 00:38:34.263 --> 00:38:39.993 form that is prescribed for them yes actually if you're under 18 you need 2 doctors 495 00:38:40.033 --> 00:38:45.483 to approve it 2 separate doctors have to approve like the autism the 8 year old 9 496 00:38:45.493 --> 00:38:48.793 year old 10 year old or the child with seizures to get 497 00:38:48.803 --> 00:38:53.543 a medical care you'd have to get to doctors and register with the state the wreck 498 00:38:53.553 --> 00:39:00.503 law is 21 years and older much like alcohol or anything under 21 so if you're 18 499 00:39:00.703 --> 00:39:03.903 and you can get a card and use it till you're 21 500 00:39:03.913 --> 00:39:08.333 a century that bridges the gap but to get the medical card obviously you need 501 00:39:08.343 --> 00:39:15.076 a doctor and you've got to go through the whole registration process. With regard 502 00:39:15.086 --> 00:39:21.696 to housing so. Sorry housing question if you don't own your own house 503 00:39:22.246 --> 00:39:23.086 you know and you're in 504 00:39:23.096 --> 00:39:29.311 a rental apartment. The use even in that private space is still subject to the 505 00:39:29.321 --> 00:39:33.911 landlord's Yeah nothing can just release and also go for federal federally 506 00:39:33.921 --> 00:39:37.751 subsidized housing that it's sort of it would be all yes all right you know what 507 00:39:37.841 --> 00:39:43.001 you can do if you're if your housing is subsidized federally or any form and that's 508 00:39:43.011 --> 00:39:44.161 a big thing literally it's 509 00:39:44.171 --> 00:39:51.111 a problem here I know in the ski you like 70 percent of them I thought for 510 00:39:51.121 --> 00:39:53.191 them some way which puts 511 00:39:53.201 --> 00:39:57.871 a lot of people which we we would look at that and that's mostly going to be people 512 00:39:58.351 --> 00:40:01.341 you know minority are black and brown So you still have a bit 513 00:40:01.401 --> 00:40:05.551 a lot of opportunity there so there's still other ways for you to get in trouble if 514 00:40:05.561 --> 00:40:10.591 you don't as they say stay in the ramifications of your thing we have not talked 515 00:40:10.601 --> 00:40:15.121 about automobiles but you really same the same as the apartment it goes for 516 00:40:15.131 --> 00:40:19.841 automobiles so you cannot smoke in your car just like you can't sit and drink 517 00:40:19.851 --> 00:40:25.271 alcohol while you're driving. Under the recreational law even the passenger can be 518 00:40:25.281 --> 00:40:27.721 smoking marijuana so even if you're not driving 519 00:40:27.731 --> 00:40:34.261 a car you can't be smoking it in the car and the certainly the driver could not be 520 00:40:34.261 --> 00:40:40.970 . Using it in the car what's what I and the trend I see happening if I have just 521 00:40:40.980 --> 00:40:44.000 a minute here take you to the trend that's going on as 522 00:40:44.010 --> 00:40:48.650 a number of alcohol driving cases are going down the drunk driving numbers are 523 00:40:48.660 --> 00:40:54.050 going down so now what the police are looking at is people that are driving high 524 00:40:54.700 --> 00:40:55.750 and I'm starting to see 525 00:40:55.760 --> 00:41:02.110 a real uptick in cases where someone gets stopped because they didn't have their 526 00:41:02.120 --> 00:41:09.040 headlights on and it was you have half an hour between sunset and having to turn 527 00:41:09.050 --> 00:41:15.240 your lights on but the person got pulled over no alcohol but they didn't do well on 528 00:41:15.250 --> 00:41:19.490 the standard field sobriety tests well I Got News For You I don't do very good on 529 00:41:19.500 --> 00:41:23.580 those on any given day. You can say I have 530 00:41:23.590 --> 00:41:30.220 a back right now so. When I'm sober you know I mean right no never say that by the 531 00:41:30.230 --> 00:41:34.500 way is the worst I can do the even if I was sober OK. 532 00:41:38.110 --> 00:41:43.980 But this lady was probably I was overweight and you know relatively heavy and just 533 00:41:43.990 --> 00:41:48.540 didn't do real well so he arrested or takes her to jail hauled her car and gives 534 00:41:48.550 --> 00:41:52.400 her a blood test and yeah it comes back with some positive T.H.C. 535 00:41:52.410 --> 00:41:56.810 In anagrams and she gets arrested and charged with drug driving and that's 536 00:41:56.820 --> 00:42:03.380 a real danger so there's one thing I would. Had to take one thing away today 537 00:42:03.840 --> 00:42:09.110 is don't smoke and then drive or use marijuana on the drive I mean I would I would 538 00:42:09.180 --> 00:42:12.590 give it at least 4 hours to let some of the active T.H.C. 539 00:42:12.600 --> 00:42:19.080 Get out of your body because they're really cracking down on that drug driving 540 00:42:19.610 --> 00:42:23.460 aspect of and I think it's going to get worse it's going to it's going to get much 541 00:42:23.470 --> 00:42:30.120 much worse more Act I have a question go ahead my question is because the T.H.C. 542 00:42:30.130 --> 00:42:36.340 Stays in your body from. You know so how are they I have no idea. How are they 543 00:42:36.350 --> 00:42:42.870 measuring the level and about what they give no they take you and they take your 544 00:42:42.880 --> 00:42:45.720 blood right now no they take you to 545 00:42:45.730 --> 00:42:50.820 a hospital or some of the jails are set up with people that can draw blood the 546 00:42:50.950 --> 00:42:57.350 officer can't but they'll have believe it's called off. At either at the jail or 547 00:42:57.360 --> 00:42:57.980 that they get to 548 00:42:57.990 --> 00:43:03.490 a hospital and take your blood. And then if heaven forbid you're on you've taken 549 00:43:03.500 --> 00:43:08.650 something else that's going to show up to where they screen for 30 drugs. Or 550 00:43:08.660 --> 00:43:10.590 haven't so if you have 551 00:43:10.600 --> 00:43:14.150 a prescription for Adderall guess what that's going to show positive for 552 00:43:14.160 --> 00:43:19.980 methamphetamine. And then they're going to say you had marijuana and you're high on 553 00:43:19.980 --> 00:43:26.130 . Methamphetamine and it's a real mess it's 554 00:43:26.140 --> 00:43:30.960 a romance but in the just to finish out the question the Act to think of act 555 00:43:30.970 --> 00:43:32.450 there's 2 types of T.H.C. 556 00:43:32.460 --> 00:43:38.850 There's the the body takes marijuana and converts it into something else just like 557 00:43:38.860 --> 00:43:43.370 when you eat food OK Your body takes it and breaks it down into different parts of 558 00:43:43.380 --> 00:43:50.220 metabolites active th they think of more of like alcohol so you have 4 drinks your 559 00:43:50.230 --> 00:43:51.250 body gets rid of about 560 00:43:51.260 --> 00:43:54.810 a drink an hour or so after about 4 hours you're not going to have alcohol in your 561 00:43:54.820 --> 00:43:58.690 body the same way with T.H.C. Active T.H.C. 562 00:43:58.790 --> 00:44:02.730 Which is the one that counts the metabolite the stuff that these in your body for 563 00:44:02.740 --> 00:44:08.420 28 days doesn't count according to our Supreme Court of Michigan the metabolite 564 00:44:08.430 --> 00:44:12.150 doesn't count the only thing you have to worry about is that active T.H.C. 565 00:44:12.160 --> 00:44:19.000 Which is the euphoria or the high the high producing part of marijuana and that 566 00:44:19.010 --> 00:44:24.900 typically leaves your body depending on how the strain is but. 567 00:44:26.620 --> 00:44:30.990 Hour or 2 hours I always tell people for me because why do you want to run the risk 568 00:44:31.000 --> 00:44:31.120 of 569 00:44:31.130 --> 00:44:37.990 a drug driving I mean. But it should leave your body much like alcohol does and the 570 00:44:38.000 --> 00:44:40.930 metabolite you don't have to worry about it because that's not considered 571 00:44:40.940 --> 00:44:45.570 a schedule one drug and it's that they can they can even I have I'm able to keep 572 00:44:45.580 --> 00:44:50.530 them from even mentioning that at trial the metabolite the stuff that stays in your 573 00:44:50.540 --> 00:44:55.371 body 20 days. So we're going to wrap up pretty soon we're going to get to Q. 574 00:44:55.381 --> 00:44:56.381 And A and just among We just have 575 00:44:56.391 --> 00:45:00.991 a few more questions I want to ask. One being about how prop one is rolling out I 576 00:45:01.001 --> 00:45:05.681 know you mentioned earlier some on that and one of the. Tenets of the ballot 577 00:45:05.691 --> 00:45:08.641 initiative that was taken out the language that was or who was around expungement 578 00:45:08.931 --> 00:45:14.551 originally what language was left in was interested primarily in seeing the state 579 00:45:15.021 --> 00:45:19.511 create some type of social equity initiative that targeted ownership and profits 580 00:45:19.521 --> 00:45:23.451 for the communities that were disproportionately affected by the war on drugs and 581 00:45:23.461 --> 00:45:28.301 the prohibition of marijuana here in the studio and happens we've also like us at 582 00:45:28.311 --> 00:45:31.391 the state of Michigan just recently announced what that social equity framework 583 00:45:31.401 --> 00:45:37.721 will look like by naming 19 cities where they will have waivers for application 584 00:45:37.731 --> 00:45:42.871 fees for people who qualify based on locality demographic and other things like 585 00:45:42.881 --> 00:45:48.391 that what can we expect from Prop one and specifically from the social equity 586 00:45:48.401 --> 00:45:52.751 initiatives and efforts that we saw kind of weaved into the intention of the ballot 587 00:45:52.761 --> 00:45:59.021 initiative now in the room I'll post November. Well one of the big things I have as 588 00:45:59.261 --> 00:46:04.121 we talked about if you mention is the $1000.00 opportunity zones not only is that 589 00:46:04.161 --> 00:46:09.741 a initiative on the state level it's also an issue to have on one the federal level 590 00:46:09.751 --> 00:46:15.771 as we look at the 2017 tax preference that's rolling out and so that is targeting 591 00:46:15.971 --> 00:46:22.721 pretty much areas that did not come to pull everything together at the 2008 but so 592 00:46:22.731 --> 00:46:26.781 these are our disproportionate areas we know that 593 00:46:26.791 --> 00:46:31.711 a lot of the dispensaries in the retail places will be going into those areas we've 594 00:46:31.721 --> 00:46:35.371 seen this before with the liquor stores right so we know that they'll be going into 595 00:46:35.381 --> 00:46:40.241 those areas in addition to that there's 2 things that we have to do to make this 596 00:46:40.251 --> 00:46:46.951 right and one needs to be for us to provide the community that this that these 597 00:46:47.451 --> 00:46:53.071 businesses will be in to provide them entrepreneurship opportunities and and. 598 00:46:53.131 --> 00:46:56.761 Earned income opportunities jobs so what that's going to look like and what we're 599 00:46:56.771 --> 00:47:02.881 hoping for moving forward is one discounting the prices the waivers that will go 600 00:47:02.891 --> 00:47:08.981 forward in those areas right to give individuals in that in those areas social 601 00:47:08.991 --> 00:47:10.571 equity we know that there's 602 00:47:10.581 --> 00:47:14.581 a difference between gentrification and redevelopment gentrification happens when 603 00:47:14.591 --> 00:47:19.211 everybody moves in and those people are no longer able to participate in their 604 00:47:19.221 --> 00:47:24.211 community we development happens when we're able to reinvest into the community and 605 00:47:24.221 --> 00:47:28.641 have those same citizens be able to participate there in addition to that there 606 00:47:28.651 --> 00:47:31.451 also has to be some job training that goes on so 607 00:47:31.461 --> 00:47:36.791 a lot of those who we look at the my view and a lot of the other good neighbor X. 608 00:47:37.061 --> 00:47:40.521 Having. Come communities that were that there's 609 00:47:40.531 --> 00:47:44.831 a certain percentage of the jobs are given to the individuals that are citizens of 610 00:47:44.841 --> 00:47:49.221 those communities in addition to that making sure that they're that they're working 611 00:47:49.231 --> 00:47:53.611 at least 30 hours or more that's really really big we all want to be in 612 00:47:53.621 --> 00:47:55.291 a green rush but I don't think nobody wants 613 00:47:55.301 --> 00:47:59.571 a part time job right so being able to have something that they can feasibly be 614 00:47:59.581 --> 00:48:04.901 able to utilize and then on and those are all big things on job training. 615 00:48:06.531 --> 00:48:12.791 Training discounts but I will say this the green area is a big it's 616 00:48:12.801 --> 00:48:19.051 a big big thing and we have to look at the monies that have to be held in reserve 617 00:48:19.181 --> 00:48:22.741 so I don't think that that should change and the reason being is because if 618 00:48:22.751 --> 00:48:27.311 something were to happen most of those individuals or those businesses will not 619 00:48:27.321 --> 00:48:31.121 stay in Inception if they don't have enough money in reserve because it takes about 620 00:48:31.131 --> 00:48:35.731 6 to 9 months for you to actually be able to grow so those things have to be 621 00:48:35.741 --> 00:48:40.101 educated to the community and then we have to make sure that there is 622 00:48:40.111 --> 00:48:44.861 a certain percentage of licenses that are going to individuals and minorities to 623 00:48:44.871 --> 00:48:51.711 say. Landed from from the cities perspective. We 624 00:48:51.821 --> 00:48:56.261 would medicals moments in. Which was a program 625 00:48:56.271 --> 00:49:01.871 a sort of incentive program that we created to help. Incentivize certain aspects of 626 00:49:01.881 --> 00:49:07.871 the medical licensing program. In the city we are trying to incentivize 15 percent 627 00:49:07.881 --> 00:49:12.691 or more of local ownership that played out in various ways 24 percent or more 628 00:49:13.471 --> 00:49:19.311 contracting use of contractors or micro local business enterprises and 30 employees 629 00:49:19.321 --> 00:49:19.841 and 30 hours 630 00:49:19.851 --> 00:49:25.111 a week or more. And I I feel like the jury is still out on how effective that was. 631 00:49:26.921 --> 00:49:31.761 If it really sort of really met the goals of the city commission was trying to 632 00:49:32.511 --> 00:49:36.021 various outcomes that they had in mind. As far as 633 00:49:36.031 --> 00:49:39.841 a social equity program goes at the state you know grown up is not one of those 19 634 00:49:39.881 --> 00:49:44.101 communities that was chosen we talk to the state it's some length about that and 635 00:49:44.111 --> 00:49:45.381 said Hey why you know this is well 636 00:49:45.721 --> 00:49:49.241 a certain income level who was there were there looking over his own income and the 637 00:49:49.251 --> 00:49:55.121 poverty level and conviction rates you associate of marijuana. And we you know 638 00:49:55.131 --> 00:49:57.971 we're noticing these lads he was one of them and when it will Hey I'm not going to 639 00:49:57.981 --> 00:50:01.131 the same thing I'm like if I have the other hand we said hey is there an 640 00:50:01.141 --> 00:50:05.101 opportunity for for example if you're looking certain census tracks in the city 641 00:50:05.811 --> 00:50:10.721 that might meet these criteria instead of the whole city. And they didn't sound too 642 00:50:10.731 --> 00:50:14.691 open to it at this point but it was it was staff talking to staff so and that 643 00:50:14.701 --> 00:50:19.311 social equity program essentially reduces the fees that are associated with trying 644 00:50:19.321 --> 00:50:23.921 to open a business to get a license. I can say that we we have 645 00:50:23.931 --> 00:50:27.771 a work crew that we're we're working on this trying to figure out how can we as 646 00:50:27.781 --> 00:50:34.601 a city. Try to sort of echo what the states doing if it's waiver of fees or if 647 00:50:34.611 --> 00:50:40.661 there are other things we can try to do to increase employment is the issue from 648 00:50:40.671 --> 00:50:44.871 the governor perspective is that we can't say Boy we'd love to have some businesses 649 00:50:45.621 --> 00:50:50.831 in this in this realm operated by black or brown people right but we can say let's 650 00:50:50.841 --> 00:50:51.341 focus on 651 00:50:51.351 --> 00:50:55.711 a certain area to do an. And how could an end and what's the most important should 652 00:50:55.721 --> 00:51:00.121 we try to focus on access to jobs in that area or to try to focus on access to 653 00:51:00.131 --> 00:51:04.471 business licenses. That we saw with the medical is that these minimum Cavaliers 654 00:51:04.481 --> 00:51:07.271 ation requirements from the state were out of reach for 655 00:51:07.281 --> 00:51:11.231 a lot of people in the areas where we wanted to to increase ownership or 656 00:51:11.241 --> 00:51:18.191 participation we're talking like it were from under 200000 to 30000. Minimum 657 00:51:18.201 --> 00:51:23.251 capitalization fit for 25 percent I think being liquid and then also an annual fee 658 00:51:23.261 --> 00:51:28.351 to the state of more than $60000.00 you know in many cases so we had 659 00:51:28.361 --> 00:51:32.441 a lot of people saying well that you know your your issue with the city isn't so 660 00:51:32.451 --> 00:51:37.891 much what's stopping us as much as the state issues I like that the recreational 661 00:51:37.901 --> 00:51:41.491 program in addition to having the site so that every program takes away some of 662 00:51:41.501 --> 00:51:45.971 that capitalization requirements but how we can get it to be reflected in the city 663 00:51:45.981 --> 00:51:46.821 level is still 664 00:51:46.831 --> 00:51:52.301 a work in progress. But I can say that many commissioners have it in mind this is 665 00:51:52.311 --> 00:51:53.831 a this is a major priority is just 666 00:51:53.841 --> 00:51:58.281 a question of how can we design it to to work and work in the ways that they're 667 00:51:58.291 --> 00:52:01.371 really hoping this one I will say that's something that we were super 668 00:52:01.911 --> 00:52:04.021 a conversation that we had recently this week we had 669 00:52:04.031 --> 00:52:07.911 a planning meeting for the black and brown canvas Guild at the chamber and we were 670 00:52:07.921 --> 00:52:12.861 planning the expungement clinics for the end of September and. Beds and harbor and 671 00:52:12.871 --> 00:52:15.781 we were planning some tours and some other things for the black about cannabis 672 00:52:15.791 --> 00:52:19.811 guild and one of the sentiments that kept coming back was in Grand Rapids where we 673 00:52:19.821 --> 00:52:20.081 had 674 00:52:20.091 --> 00:52:23.391 a mayor in recent years who was so bold as to say racial equity was her number one 675 00:52:23.401 --> 00:52:28.151 priority we got more bike lanes we got more trees and we didn't see much movement 676 00:52:28.161 --> 00:52:33.391 on black and brown ownership economic prosperity justice reform and what do we do 677 00:52:33.401 --> 00:52:35.061 for that and I started having 678 00:52:35.071 --> 00:52:37.871 a real conversation around what it looked like in Grand Rapids right to be serious 679 00:52:37.881 --> 00:52:42.741 about this some of us were talking about OK let's get. Cleared expungement 680 00:52:42.751 --> 00:52:46.331 a sponge or an awareness right that's bigger than cannabis that's really about 681 00:52:46.341 --> 00:52:50.441 removing barriers and saying to people who's paid their dues their time let's 682 00:52:50.451 --> 00:52:53.031 remove barriers so that you can continue to live your best life and have 683 00:52:53.041 --> 00:52:56.641 a. Access to opportunity that was one of the things that we talked about doing here 684 00:52:56.651 --> 00:53:00.021 in Grand Rapids but another thing we talked about was how recently the state has. 685 00:53:01.181 --> 00:53:04.381 Shot even more light on the opportunity to host events we have 686 00:53:04.391 --> 00:53:08.831 a real robust cultural scene here and Grand Rapids where every want to have an 687 00:53:09.051 --> 00:53:13.581 African festival Hispanic festival we have the 616 gram production night silent 688 00:53:13.591 --> 00:53:14.821 discos we're just 689 00:53:14.831 --> 00:53:19.651 a cool city right where beer City USA We love our our vibrant culture here the 690 00:53:19.661 --> 00:53:23.241 state recently shed more light around temporary permits for events and things like 691 00:53:23.251 --> 00:53:28.501 that. And how even that is also in the hands of the municipality right people are 692 00:53:28.511 --> 00:53:32.701 asking will if we can't have cannabis near parks can we have cannabis at parks and 693 00:53:32.711 --> 00:53:36.201 of course I said in the Parks and Rec board so I can't speak to that today but how 694 00:53:36.211 --> 00:53:40.861 do we say that that's going to what do you say is going to happen as physically 695 00:53:40.871 --> 00:53:44.631 around those additional types of life and live in and around how we kind of stick 696 00:53:44.641 --> 00:53:51.221 our our language around with here. I have 2 suggestions for you I want to hear him 697 00:53:51.231 --> 00:53:56.051 grow this case and how you guys could tell we have this right you can have this you 698 00:53:56.061 --> 00:54:01.251 could take this so 2 things that I would love to see is the 1st thing I would love 699 00:54:01.261 --> 00:54:05.421 to be able to see cannabis incubators brain and so I think that this is 700 00:54:05.431 --> 00:54:10.171 a wonderful idea we now have micro businesses those micro businesses individuals 701 00:54:10.181 --> 00:54:15.331 are able to create vertically integrated that is mean just stacked on top of 702 00:54:15.521 --> 00:54:18.861 a big deal but vertically integrated business is that is a grower and 703 00:54:18.871 --> 00:54:20.021 a processor and then 704 00:54:20.031 --> 00:54:26.901 a retail So what if we had 20000 feet dividing incubators that we would be able to 705 00:54:27.411 --> 00:54:32.011 put these businesses in they can stay in Inception for 3 to 4 to 5 years until 706 00:54:32.021 --> 00:54:36.291 they're able to grow and become a major entrepreneur at that point way so that's 707 00:54:36.301 --> 00:54:41.961 a great thing we see we've seen the benefits of the co-op and incubator how it's 708 00:54:42.001 --> 00:54:45.341 worked so many times well think about how that can impact such 709 00:54:45.381 --> 00:54:51.331 a new industry and how people would be able to grow so I think incubators for 710 00:54:51.491 --> 00:54:52.541 cannabis business is 711 00:54:52.551 --> 00:54:56.291 a great idea in addition to that I don't know if you know this but every state 712 00:54:56.301 --> 00:55:01.011 penitentiary in the state of Michigan if someone is a groundskeeper they receive 713 00:55:01.021 --> 00:55:04.451 a hold of cultural license guess what somebody that you have 714 00:55:04.461 --> 00:55:09.321 a limited training now Heaven forbid but as long as they do not have 715 00:55:09.541 --> 00:55:10.941 a marijuana or 716 00:55:10.951 --> 00:55:16.091 a controlled substance felony or misdemeanor they can actually go into what we 717 00:55:16.101 --> 00:55:20.221 consider a 2nd Chance program you imagine how impactful that would be for 718 00:55:20.231 --> 00:55:24.721 a community for individuals to be able to come back and make $20.00 an hour as an 719 00:55:24.731 --> 00:55:25.671 apprentice and stay in 720 00:55:25.681 --> 00:55:29.721 a program and then be able to potentially make 30 dollars an hour we know that 721 00:55:29.731 --> 00:55:36.311 a lot of our crime is related to poverty so those are 2 things you have. Done 722 00:55:36.501 --> 00:55:41.681 part of it can I just jump in real quick you know there's one of the things that we 723 00:55:41.691 --> 00:55:46.991 work on as far as folks with disabilities and that is changing attitudes because 724 00:55:47.001 --> 00:55:51.761 quite frankly there are some. Things that you just cannot legislate you can make 725 00:55:51.771 --> 00:55:56.171 laws and you can make rules and you can put all those things into place but 726 00:55:56.181 --> 00:55:59.181 underneath that people are still going to look at it and they're going to make up 727 00:55:59.191 --> 00:56:02.561 their mind how they're going to address that are they going to accept it 728 00:56:02.601 --> 00:56:06.841 unconditionally are they going to say well OK if you make me I'll do it are they 729 00:56:06.851 --> 00:56:11.261 going to say NO MAKE ME I'm not going to do it at all and trust me I run into that 730 00:56:11.491 --> 00:56:16.181 all 3 of those attitudes almost every day with the Americans With Disabilities Act 731 00:56:16.191 --> 00:56:19.931 and things like that so I think one of the things that's key no matter what we're 732 00:56:19.941 --> 00:56:25.911 doing is to is to not ignore the fact that this has 733 00:56:25.921 --> 00:56:32.692 a perception in people's minds and that needs to be addressed OK 734 00:56:33.172 --> 00:56:38.172 depending on their depending on their age depending on their background depending 735 00:56:38.182 --> 00:56:44.262 on their ethnic groups OK I don't let and I were talking 736 00:56:44.272 --> 00:56:50.062 a little bit I don't know if you're aware of it but this is the 50th anniversary of 737 00:56:50.072 --> 00:56:56.930 Woodstock. OK maybe that's appropriate for this. But I say that 738 00:56:56.940 --> 00:57:02.540 because you know I'm an idiot here. I am in my seventy's so if you talk to people 739 00:57:02.550 --> 00:57:09.070 my age about marijuana it's not unlikely that you're going to get Wow cool. You 740 00:57:09.080 --> 00:57:14.930 know. And I just you know your comments real quick about it not only for in this 741 00:57:14.940 --> 00:57:20.510 realm but in anything we get this all the time where. Why or what it was is only 742 00:57:20.520 --> 00:57:23.750 ordinances where this isn't right and we should change this we should change this 743 00:57:24.740 --> 00:57:31.700 to the city commission and the municipality to the government tends to tends to 744 00:57:32.290 --> 00:57:38.290 create laws that reflect public sentiment in that city so we had 70 percent or 745 00:57:38.300 --> 00:57:43.310 something of the city vote yes on Iraq so we expect that the city commissions in 746 00:57:43.320 --> 00:57:48.540 Iraq. Is going to happen but if there are some the perception issues and every time 747 00:57:48.750 --> 00:57:49.410 we have people 748 00:57:50.310 --> 00:57:54.030 a city commission chambers and say yes this sounds where it is always other people 749 00:57:54.040 --> 00:57:57.800 who weren't who didn't come out to the polls and who come out of the woodwork and 750 00:57:57.810 --> 00:58:04.560 on favor of this and so I think if you're concerned with how this any ordinance 751 00:58:04.570 --> 00:58:07.550 rolls out you've got to make sure it's talk to your legislators because what 752 00:58:07.560 --> 00:58:10.650 they're going to do is going to generally reflect public sentiment public 753 00:58:10.760 --> 00:58:13.310 priorities. We're going to see what's happening in 754 00:58:13.320 --> 00:58:16.600 a specific moment specific and education goes 755 00:58:16.610 --> 00:58:21.840 a long way in changing that you know right I talk to business people who say man 756 00:58:21.850 --> 00:58:25.450 you're making me build a ramp that's going to cost me X. 757 00:58:25.460 --> 00:58:28.960 Amount of dollars Well let me tell you what it else is going to cost you if you 758 00:58:28.970 --> 00:58:31.760 don't build the ramp there's $1.00 in 5 people in Michigan has 759 00:58:31.770 --> 00:58:36.540 a disability so you've just cut your market share by 20 percent and it's even 760 00:58:36.550 --> 00:58:42.050 greater than that if you talk about. Family members of people with disabilities 761 00:58:42.060 --> 00:58:48.040 caregivers. Older folks like myself who are who have caught the disease to him 762 00:58:48.360 --> 00:58:49.320 which is T.M.B. 763 00:58:49.330 --> 00:58:56.270 Which is too many birthdays and we're. We're aging into disability OK. So when 764 00:58:56.280 --> 00:58:57.200 I say hey wait 765 00:58:57.210 --> 00:59:01.240 a minute you really want to cut your market share 20 percent then they look at that 766 00:59:01.250 --> 00:59:03.900 ramp differently we do we do 767 00:59:03.910 --> 00:59:08.530 a lot of stuff right now with experience Grand Rapids the tourism group in terms of 768 00:59:09.270 --> 00:59:13.790 monitoring businesses for accessibility so that they can put out literature that 769 00:59:13.800 --> 00:59:15.910 tells the disability folks OK this is 770 00:59:15.920 --> 00:59:20.911 a hotel you can stay and you know what's happened. Competitors have figured out 771 00:59:20.921 --> 00:59:25.811 that they need to get on that list OK So what started with us as 772 00:59:25.821 --> 00:59:32.291 a small project with about 20 sites is I think close to 100 right now absolutely no 773 00:59:32.301 --> 00:59:38.001 one to to assess and put out that information so it's it may not be completely 774 00:59:38.011 --> 00:59:44.391 believe galaxies but the but the impression or the attitudes about the laws coming 775 00:59:44.401 --> 00:59:50.031 in are important I think you need to be dealt with absolutely absolutely and the 776 00:59:50.041 --> 00:59:54.901 work to be stigmatised cannabis is happening all across the industry I have 777 00:59:54.911 --> 00:59:58.551 cautioned so many cannabis companies about the way that they engage the Grand 778 00:59:58.561 --> 01:00:02.821 Rapids neighborhoods in the neighborhood associations and the most vocal 779 01:00:02.861 --> 01:00:06.791 individuals at the city commission meeting and the sentiments that they express and 780 01:00:06.801 --> 01:00:11.371 how they do and sometimes don't represent how the general population feels right 781 01:00:11.831 --> 01:00:14.211 everyone is much more honest in the privacy of 782 01:00:14.221 --> 01:00:16.901 a ballot box than they are once they can stand in front of 783 01:00:16.911 --> 01:00:20.721 a city commission Mike and for a lot of reasons you don't see 784 01:00:20.731 --> 01:00:23.001 a lot of people who go into that space because it takes 785 01:00:23.011 --> 01:00:29.411 a certain amount of transparency. And so we do need everyone to lend sound advocacy 786 01:00:29.421 --> 01:00:34.401 to the opportunity here and to to be honest about what some of the pros and cons 787 01:00:34.411 --> 01:00:38.441 are even along this diet today that the transparency that it takes to say we don't 788 01:00:38.451 --> 01:00:43.381 know around so many things about information and the information flow how things 789 01:00:43.391 --> 01:00:47.831 are changing and what's going to happen we don't predict the future all we do is 790 01:00:47.921 --> 01:00:52.831 quickly pivot every time we get new information in that is marijuana right now that 791 01:00:52.841 --> 01:00:56.461 is medical that is recreational we're all doing it together and the people who pull 792 01:00:56.471 --> 01:01:01.851 the strings on how this works are beholden to the voters to the taxpayers to the 793 01:01:01.861 --> 01:01:06.151 residents of Michigan and so you all have some type of opportunity there to 794 01:01:06.161 --> 01:01:09.381 advocate for what you want to see and how you feel about some of the changes as 795 01:01:09.391 --> 01:01:12.701 they happen. So I'm going to ask my closing question in just 796 01:01:12.711 --> 01:01:16.101 a minute but I want to take this moment to open it up for some of you I've seen 797 01:01:16.111 --> 01:01:19.831 pins moving the entire time so I want to. I give you guys 798 01:01:19.841 --> 01:01:25.041 a chance to ask. The wonderful folks up here some questions so you can make your 799 01:01:25.051 --> 01:01:29.321 way down to the mikes here and here or if you like we can also have and then look 800 01:01:29.331 --> 01:01:29.661 at the grab 801 01:01:29.671 --> 01:01:34.191 a mike and take one around to you so if we have any questions I see some folks 802 01:01:34.201 --> 01:01:37.521 packing up their notebooks come on down to the front and then I'll just bounce back 803 01:01:37.531 --> 01:01:41.852 and forth and we'll try and answer some of those questions for you guys thank you 804 01:01:41.862 --> 01:01:45.252 very much we can start right here with you they are ready you got all right I love 805 01:01:45.262 --> 01:01:47.932 it I love it like I did I'm going to start right here and then we're going to go 806 01:01:47.942 --> 01:01:54.533 here who is it on. And I would if you turn that went on to 807 01:01:55.413 --> 01:01:59.243 up there you can thank you all for being here today like this was 808 01:01:59.323 --> 01:02:02.603 a real treat I just found out about this yesterday and I was excited to see that it 809 01:02:02.613 --> 01:02:07.153 was going on as a. Welcome thank you I had 810 01:02:07.163 --> 01:02:13.053 a couple different questions but my 1st one is more like legal wise so. 811 01:02:14.343 --> 01:02:17.663 I have a property that's fairly large it was originally part of 812 01:02:17.673 --> 01:02:22.523 a Homestead area all the property surrounding it back or 100 years ago as part of 813 01:02:22.563 --> 01:02:25.453 this particular area however it's across the street from 814 01:02:25.463 --> 01:02:30.053 a school so if say for instance someone who had 815 01:02:30.063 --> 01:02:35.563 a card and was smoking on their front porch which is technically legal are they 816 01:02:35.573 --> 01:02:39.733 still breaking any laws because they're in there with they're not the distance 817 01:02:39.743 --> 01:02:44.323 legal wise they're encroaching on so technically if they stepped out on their front 818 01:02:44.333 --> 01:02:49.971 stoop it be illegal. You know when they're on their porch you're talking about the 819 01:02:49.981 --> 01:02:55.811 fells and for. Them that's what exactly and that would be if you stepped up I 820 01:02:55.821 --> 01:03:02.791 believe on my front porch you'd be about that 1000. Under federal law if there 821 01:03:02.801 --> 01:03:05.331 was federal law right and you're breaking the law and you get 822 01:03:05.341 --> 01:03:09.281 a lot of money for 5 years that money somewhere and no matter what you do that so 823 01:03:10.101 --> 01:03:16.281 under state law though it is marijuana specifically excluded from the Drug Free 824 01:03:16.291 --> 01:03:23.001 Zone OK so you would not be breaking the law. And then make sense yes that 825 01:03:23.011 --> 01:03:26.361 completely makes sense but my 2nd point is that this is legal to party here and 826 01:03:26.371 --> 01:03:32.091 we're snorting Crow cocaine. Before Yeah there are other things I don't know if you 827 01:03:32.101 --> 01:03:38.451 know where we got that was made sort of I have made that clear Yeah OK so the be 828 01:03:38.461 --> 01:03:43.581 part of my question was then so could you define for me legally what's under the 829 01:03:43.591 --> 01:03:48.641 law an educational institution because I've noticed lately that I know that 830 01:03:48.851 --> 01:03:52.831 different daycare centers around here in child care places that technically before 831 01:03:52.841 --> 01:03:57.941 weren't schools they were employing teachers seem to have received either grants 832 01:03:57.951 --> 01:04:02.851 from the different organizations or money from the. Current head of the Department 833 01:04:02.861 --> 01:04:06.931 of Education these places now though technically they weren't schools before and 834 01:04:06.941 --> 01:04:10.971 they're not charters they're just childcare but they now employed teachers and they 835 01:04:10.981 --> 01:04:14.641 actually offer classes for things such as you know pre-K. 836 01:04:14.651 --> 01:04:21.011 And whatnot would those be deemed as well as educational facilities. Well you told 837 01:04:21.021 --> 01:04:23.231 local definition is hold 838 01:04:23.241 --> 01:04:29.261 a private school OK let or stay with instructors honor that's our local ordinance. 839 01:04:31.001 --> 01:04:34.161 I don't feel better but you can check Laura to see if there is 840 01:04:34.171 --> 01:04:38.221 a license childcare facility that's my mom's or not I figured it was as much as 841 01:04:38.231 --> 01:04:42.021 that I just wasn't quite sure like if those because previously they weren't 842 01:04:42.131 --> 01:04:45.911 necessarily educational facilities they weren't employing actual teachers they just 843 01:04:45.921 --> 01:04:52.091 had staff and childcare providers so. That I think that that answers it for me 844 01:04:52.541 --> 01:04:56.841 thank you so much for being here also short notice and OK in the next hour or so. 845 01:04:58.221 --> 01:05:04.161 That's where question is the 1st. Time it. Will start. 846 01:05:11.493 --> 01:05:17.956 With life good luck. With. The news only 847 01:05:17.966 --> 01:05:22.736 11 were so far out of the 9 it's like how do you get. 848 01:05:25.900 --> 01:05:32.410 So you want to tell me to force one year to tell me to force her I just do the 849 01:05:32.420 --> 01:05:36.060 foresaid How do you go about getting licensed so far and get 850 01:05:36.070 --> 01:05:42.720 a life and I. Was so angry and started right 851 01:05:42.760 --> 01:05:47.470 so as of right now with the social that I know of you guys correct me if I'm wrong 852 01:05:47.550 --> 01:05:53.080 with the social activity then there are waivers for your application for different 853 01:05:53.090 --> 01:05:58.440 fees I don't know of any grants that they're given away money for we but if you 854 01:05:58.450 --> 01:06:03.200 find out let me know right so this is what I'll say this I decided I the federal 855 01:06:03.210 --> 01:06:08.290 government. Over my is not going to give you any money yet now I guess you're going 856 01:06:08.300 --> 01:06:12.180 to not going to emerge with Ira and then I'll take that part of the financial 857 01:06:12.190 --> 01:06:15.830 opportunities so one of the big things that you can actually look and I have 858 01:06:16.070 --> 01:06:21.310 lending I have probably access to about $10000000.00 of individuals that are 859 01:06:21.320 --> 01:06:27.230 investing and lending partners of mine that are looking to be able to invest in 860 01:06:27.240 --> 01:06:30.220 cannabis businesses if you are a cannabis business there's 861 01:06:30.230 --> 01:06:33.870 a couple things and this is what I do all the time if you're interested in actually 862 01:06:34.030 --> 01:06:37.640 participating in a can of his business crowdfunding is also 863 01:06:37.650 --> 01:06:39.350 a wonderful idea if you have 864 01:06:39.360 --> 01:06:44.450 a big social media platform and if you have intellectual property that doesn't mean 865 01:06:44.460 --> 01:06:45.030 that oh I'm 866 01:06:45.040 --> 01:06:48.730 a grower and I thought this is cool I need you to be able to figure out it's got to 867 01:06:48.740 --> 01:06:52.910 be something good about it investors want to invest in one of 2 things either their 868 01:06:52.920 --> 01:06:57.450 vesting in business in that business plants or they invest in the intellectual 869 01:06:57.460 --> 01:07:02.610 property which is trades trademarks and patents so that's one of the opportunities 870 01:07:02.620 --> 01:07:04.790 that you can be able to do it in that way or find 871 01:07:04.800 --> 01:07:09.190 a venture capital So that's those are all different ways for you to be able to get 872 01:07:09.500 --> 01:07:14.710 into the business last but not least state of Michigan has created micro businesses 873 01:07:14.850 --> 01:07:17.020 it's only $6000.00 for you to be able to get 874 01:07:17.110 --> 01:07:20.830 a license in the 1st year and then you're able to do renewables but what that 875 01:07:20.840 --> 01:07:26.440 allows you is you can grow up to 150 plants then you are able to pass. Maybe you're 876 01:07:26.450 --> 01:07:29.050 a great cook you can go and make edibles if you become 877 01:07:29.060 --> 01:07:30.950 a compound this you can sell or not be 878 01:07:30.960 --> 01:07:36.520 a retail store OK But your question is Where do I get money right yeah we get to 879 01:07:36.530 --> 01:07:40.430 the end OK you're not going to be able to get it from the the S.B.A. 880 01:07:40.530 --> 01:07:45.330 The Small Business Administration and most banks are not going to lend you money OK 881 01:07:45.370 --> 01:07:49.810 banks don't want nothing to do with the way business absent some change at the 882 01:07:49.820 --> 01:07:55.840 federal level so you're probably going to have to either have it or have or. 883 01:07:56.890 --> 01:08:01.470 Delve into like venture capital people that have money that are willing to invest 884 01:08:01.480 --> 01:08:05.350 in such things crowdfunding and I'm investing there are lenders that are 885 01:08:05.360 --> 01:08:10.170 alternative lenders that will will that will but it is the bay with you it's going 886 01:08:10.180 --> 01:08:10.970 to be a little bit of 887 01:08:10.980 --> 01:08:14.890 a higher interest rate so that's another opportunity no you're not getting it from 888 01:08:14.900 --> 01:08:18.910 as you know but there are other opportunities for you to be able to do it and save 889 01:08:18.920 --> 01:08:23.890 Bank and still that's that could change really really so if the save Bank is 890 01:08:23.900 --> 01:08:28.330 actually approved so there is opportunity we're not saying no we just they're not 891 01:08:28.340 --> 01:08:34.200 right now. I just want to add though that if you go to entrepreneurial spirit is 892 01:08:34.210 --> 01:08:38.860 ations like score or gain or star and 893 01:08:38.900 --> 01:08:43.120 a lot of times if they're federally funded like score for example they can't help 894 01:08:43.130 --> 01:08:48.250 you the moment you say marijuana they'll say oh boy sorry you cut because they have 895 01:08:48.260 --> 01:08:52.010 federal funding so you just have to watch out for that it's as if he were funding 896 01:08:52.020 --> 01:08:58.522 from just trying to get help but to their points about alternative access to 897 01:08:58.562 --> 01:09:02.292 financing isn't isn't available at this point could be if legislation changes as 898 01:09:02.302 --> 01:09:06.112 far as licensing question goes state is different you also have your local local 899 01:09:06.122 --> 01:09:11.512 licensing approval it's just not easy right now I think we might see opportunities 900 01:09:11.522 --> 01:09:17.482 open up if one wreck gets approved locally I don't speak for the city of Grand 901 01:09:17.492 --> 01:09:23.474 Rapids but medical wise right now it's come talk to me and we can talk if you're 902 01:09:23.484 --> 01:09:27.434 trying to get into the city of grown up it's. Not easy goop. 903 01:09:31.849 --> 01:09:34.219 So we're going to we're going to go over here and then we're going to come back 904 01:09:34.359 --> 01:09:39.189 thank you so much for your question Guy and morning my name is April Moir Safran 905 01:09:39.199 --> 01:09:43.429 C.V.T. My husband I are interested in opening 906 01:09:43.469 --> 01:09:49.169 a provisionary center we were thinking more recreational but. I'm wondering about 907 01:09:49.209 --> 01:09:52.489 the timeline in the process because if we apply for 908 01:09:52.529 --> 01:09:56.999 a medical which of course has that I think it's 300000 or capitalization 909 01:09:57.009 --> 01:10:01.999 requirement but I'm under the I understand the medical provisionary centers will be 910 01:10:02.009 --> 01:10:07.879 the 1st ones to be handed recreational license that's correct so then if we file we 911 01:10:07.889 --> 01:10:12.419 have to you we can file for record license it doesn't have that capitalization 912 01:10:12.429 --> 01:10:16.959 requirement but we saw fully 2 years so in that 2 years is there something that's 913 01:10:16.969 --> 01:10:19.149 going to come down the pipe where there's going to be 914 01:10:19.159 --> 01:10:24.139 a cap on recreational like what if all of the medical provisionary centers apply 915 01:10:24.149 --> 01:10:28.359 for all of these recreational licenses and then we've got 916 01:10:28.369 --> 01:10:32.939 a wreck licens where waiting out or 2 years and then the market's either saturated 917 01:10:32.949 --> 01:10:37.419 or we're no longer able to find property that's affordable and on that affordable 918 01:10:37.429 --> 01:10:43.069 property on the read maps how often are they updated and if we're applying for 919 01:10:43.109 --> 01:10:43.419 either 920 01:10:43.429 --> 01:10:48.189 a medical or rec license do we have to go off that weed map in order to find 921 01:10:48.199 --> 01:10:53.829 a location. Well the really good question and this is everybody's best everyone's 922 01:10:53.839 --> 01:10:58.079 question I know nothing about Wade map so I can answer that maybe someone here does 923 01:10:58.089 --> 01:11:02.359 but as far as the recreational versus the medical there is 924 01:11:02.369 --> 01:11:06.519 a clear distinct advantage to getting him out of school because you're basically 925 01:11:06.529 --> 01:11:11.009 a shoo in to get a recreational. On the other hand it's 926 01:11:11.019 --> 01:11:16.989 a very complex and very expensive process to get the medical license. The state is 927 01:11:16.999 --> 01:11:22.309 going to star accepting recreational in November and they have to issue them within 928 01:11:22.319 --> 01:11:27.439 90 days of applications so I don't I don't I don't I mean if I were if you were to 929 01:11:27.449 --> 01:11:33.719 come to me and say what should I do I'd probably say. Get your preamp done. And 930 01:11:33.729 --> 01:11:36.849 then November 1st file for it by understand that we can get 931 01:11:36.859 --> 01:11:40.869 a license in 90 days after we apply but I thought that we could actually be up and 932 01:11:40.879 --> 01:11:42.539 running that there's somewhere in there there was 933 01:11:42.549 --> 01:11:49.049 a 2 year wait period. So the state the state statute that allows for recreational 934 01:11:49.059 --> 01:11:50.259 marijuana has 935 01:11:50.269 --> 01:11:54.829 a requirement that except for I believe this is except for class A growers or micro 936 01:11:54.839 --> 01:11:58.219 businesses only medical licensees can get 937 01:11:58.229 --> 01:12:01.869 a recreational license for the 1st 2 years right but the legislature has an 938 01:12:01.879 --> 01:12:06.769 opportunity next November to change that if they want to I can say we've had some 939 01:12:06.779 --> 01:12:13.589 local. Industry sort of advocacy saying hey let's let's if you talk about 940 01:12:13.599 --> 01:12:18.249 a city Grand Rapids let's hold off or like if we're going to opt in let's not make 941 01:12:18.259 --> 01:12:19.329 it effective for at least 942 01:12:19.339 --> 01:12:24.879 a year or 2 years. To the city commission I don't know how it's going to go but I 943 01:12:24.889 --> 01:12:28.359 think people are keyed into that and saying well hey we didn't feel like we had 944 01:12:28.369 --> 01:12:31.579 a really good shot the 1st time around with medical We don't want to send 945 01:12:31.589 --> 01:12:36.369 a map of recreational so because of the city commission would you hold off on sort 946 01:12:36.379 --> 01:12:36.939 of maybe do 947 01:12:36.949 --> 01:12:41.010 a temporary opt out or something to that effect. Whether or not that's going to 948 01:12:41.020 --> 01:12:46.030 happen I have no idea who sets the $300000.00 capitalization requirement as I'm 949 01:12:46.040 --> 01:12:48.840 going to say you if you would talk to the state of Michigan so your state of 950 01:12:48.850 --> 01:12:50.860 Michigan a lot of people call up to M.R.A. 951 01:12:50.900 --> 01:12:55.260 Like that the director Bridwell was just talking about this is what they do all day 952 01:12:55.270 --> 01:12:58.830 every day and after these questions if you call the Michigan marijuana regulatory 953 01:12:58.840 --> 01:13:02.740 agency or if you email them or even they're doing meetings all over the state right 954 01:13:02.750 --> 01:13:06.050 now about rolling out cannabis they were doing them all last week I think it was 955 01:13:06.390 --> 01:13:10.770 August 12th through like 70 they had their 1st week of start at meetings they're 956 01:13:10.780 --> 01:13:14.440 just these free informational sessions where the marijuana regulatory agency and 957 01:13:14.450 --> 01:13:17.930 they're targeting of course starting these 1000 communities where the opportunity 958 01:13:17.940 --> 01:13:21.620 zones are but literally anybody can show up and ask questions and one of the things 959 01:13:21.630 --> 01:13:24.830 that they said is because this industry is so new and people have so many questions 960 01:13:24.840 --> 01:13:28.460 in Michigan about this especially industry folks is they are encouraging people to 961 01:13:28.470 --> 01:13:32.350 e-mail them and call for clarity just because it changes so quickly and it's just 962 01:13:32.360 --> 01:13:32.930 a bill on the top 963 01:13:32.940 --> 01:13:35.720 a memo this is how we're going to do this and then everyone in the industry has to 964 01:13:35.730 --> 01:13:38.880 respond to say this is the road to how it's going to go and this in she weighed on 965 01:13:38.890 --> 01:13:41.920 legislators so that's why I recommend to you because while this is 966 01:13:41.930 --> 01:13:47.610 a really great like city and county diet I do say for state level questions call 967 01:13:47.620 --> 01:13:50.870 him directly because they may shed so much light on things some much better than I 968 01:13:50.880 --> 01:13:51.750 think I mean as 969 01:13:51.760 --> 01:13:55.400 a pilot is can speculate are the Weed Maps is that something I thought that was 970 01:13:55.410 --> 01:13:59.490 through the city of. Out of the city so that we publish 971 01:13:59.500 --> 01:14:04.560 a map that tries to show the best are our best guess essential with the information 972 01:14:04.570 --> 01:14:09.020 we have available of where what properties are eligible and where the current 973 01:14:09.030 --> 01:14:15.150 applications are OK and that's updated about every 2 weeks because. As applications 974 01:14:15.160 --> 01:14:19.310 are approved or denied by the Planning Commission it takes 2 weeks for those 975 01:14:19.860 --> 01:14:24.880 approval or those decisions to go into effect and so we updated 2 weeks after the 976 01:14:24.890 --> 01:14:29.690 Planning Commission to make sure those come off. The map or on the map so during 977 01:14:29.700 --> 01:14:32.030 the application process we do not have to select 978 01:14:32.070 --> 01:14:36.610 a property that's on the read map but if it's approved it will be added You have to 979 01:14:36.620 --> 01:14:37.000 select 980 01:14:37.010 --> 01:14:41.940 a property the map that shows the different properties and how we think they're 981 01:14:41.950 --> 01:14:46.520 eligible that's our best guess it was eligible or not eligible so you want to make 982 01:14:46.530 --> 01:14:47.120 sure you find 983 01:14:47.130 --> 01:14:52.561 a location that's on that map shown as eligible. At least we're 95 percent sure 984 01:14:53.301 --> 01:14:58.081 those maps or are accurate OK thank you and then before we go to the next question 985 01:14:58.091 --> 01:15:00.191 thank you so much for your question I want to make 986 01:15:00.201 --> 01:15:04.671 a quick time announcement our organizer did say that it's OK we have 15 minutes to 987 01:15:04.681 --> 01:15:07.871 go over because what's next is just Cordell mingle session so if you guys want to 988 01:15:07.881 --> 01:15:11.021 go in the hallway mingle you're free to and we're going to sit here and continue 989 01:15:11.031 --> 01:15:13.711 with the question we're going to lock the lines here so we can get through these 990 01:15:13.721 --> 01:15:15.031 questions or we're going to make our answers 991 01:15:15.041 --> 01:15:18.541 a little bit we're going to answer in brevity I'm not going to I'm not going to 992 01:15:18.551 --> 01:15:24.141 other time OK but I'm just like that with the. Know what we're going to do is we're 993 01:15:24.151 --> 01:15:28.041 going to lot of you have any additional questions please remember that you can go 994 01:15:28.051 --> 01:15:31.561 back and watch this 1st watch live streamed my phone calls in question for you all 995 01:15:31.571 --> 01:15:34.451 is of course going to be how people say involved as they connected to you but we 996 01:15:34.461 --> 01:15:37.631 want to get through these quickly 1st but I wanted to make that time announcement 997 01:15:37.641 --> 01:15:41.951 to honor your time and to honor your itinerary anybody move in so let's get going 998 01:15:41.961 --> 01:15:48.391 go ahead. So my question was well me and my partner are looking to do things online 999 01:15:48.821 --> 01:15:53.561 now how will how would that look legally and like with licenses and whatnot if you 1000 01:15:53.571 --> 01:15:55.421 want to sell products like such as like you know there's 1001 01:15:55.431 --> 01:16:00.621 a legal Yes federally illegal so once you go online most of the time ago shut you 1002 01:16:00.631 --> 01:16:07.411 down in most cases because you are crossing the line right so long as you're in the 1003 01:16:07.421 --> 01:16:14.061 state of Michigan as he sit there saying we're OK because we have we can 1004 01:16:14.101 --> 01:16:18.761 interstate the government is saying that we're OK this is still very legal you can 1005 01:16:18.771 --> 01:16:24.441 not say Oh Canada is over to Ohio or Florida and the people don't come and knock on 1006 01:16:24.451 --> 01:16:28.851 your door and single digit bridges that's what it is so we'll have an online now 1007 01:16:28.861 --> 01:16:33.921 accessories is one thing but being able to distribute unless it is 1008 01:16:33.931 --> 01:16:39.751 a state and we've even had that was yeah like I would. Say the baby ended up 1009 01:16:39.761 --> 01:16:45.361 becoming you know well see him became legal and that's still we still have 1010 01:16:45.371 --> 01:16:46.631 a lot of states and 1011 01:16:46.641 --> 01:16:51.001 a lot of issues going on where you can't even take transactions in sump. He says 1012 01:16:51.181 --> 01:16:56.641 because it's so gray so you have actually I don't hate how. Happy you so much 1013 01:16:56.651 --> 01:17:00.021 entree into that you know what I said in my lead into C.B.D. 1014 01:17:00.031 --> 01:17:01.241 Or kiddushin is 1015 01:17:01.251 --> 01:17:06.221 a stripe strip the margin sign yet March and they sent me an e-mail in time and we 1016 01:17:06.231 --> 01:17:10.841 hope it works out for you we've done which you. Know I was mad so 1017 01:17:10.851 --> 01:17:14.441 a lot of people Pay Pal I think will still take us but 1018 01:17:14.451 --> 01:17:18.001 a lot of I don't know somebody others do and so maybe I actually this is why I'm in 1019 01:17:18.011 --> 01:17:21.941 all these groups because all of them are talking about the models to transacting 1020 01:17:21.951 --> 01:17:27.791 business being online Yeah they're going out software all that is saying that very 1021 01:17:27.801 --> 01:17:31.531 regularly and that's because I still found it illegal so just being very careful 1022 01:17:31.541 --> 01:17:35.331 with that now suggestion for you because I always like to see people make money 1023 01:17:35.521 --> 01:17:39.401 maybe you might want to do excesses accessories are legal you want to sell stuff to 1024 01:17:39.581 --> 01:17:41.211 people in California there's 1025 01:17:41.221 --> 01:17:48.211 a lot of women who want to smoke just the stuff that's pink. I think you go thank 1026 01:17:48.221 --> 01:17:51.471 you so much for your nice they're like oh I have 1027 01:17:51.481 --> 01:17:56.841 a couple of questions the 1st question is will there be any requirements for the 1028 01:17:56.851 --> 01:18:02.131 businesses that are looking at Michigan to grow your business will they have an 1029 01:18:02.171 --> 01:18:03.621 equity Claw will they be required to have 1030 01:18:03.631 --> 01:18:07.821 a social equity clause within their plans because I had just read an article that 1031 01:18:07.831 --> 01:18:08.171 said like 1032 01:18:08.181 --> 01:18:12.991 a business in Canada was looking to make Michigan it's like one of its hubs way and 1033 01:18:13.001 --> 01:18:15.861 I'm thinking about you know did you forget the different regions for cation I mean 1034 01:18:15.871 --> 01:18:17.071 a bell at MIT and 1035 01:18:17.081 --> 01:18:21.461 a lot of people who are bringing money or having the capital to establish these 1036 01:18:21.471 --> 01:18:26.131 larger businesses are going to end up pushing out folks who either aren't able to 1037 01:18:26.141 --> 01:18:30.221 work there or can't afford to live in those places anymore so that would be one 1038 01:18:30.231 --> 01:18:36.471 question and then my 2nd question is how are law enforcement being prepared to have 1039 01:18:36.481 --> 01:18:40.321 these conversations particularly with us with consumers because I work actually 1040 01:18:40.331 --> 01:18:40.971 work a G.V. 1041 01:18:40.971 --> 01:18:46.241 . Thinking about kind of like thinking about the population that I work with 1042 01:18:46.251 --> 01:18:50.111 a lot of students car coming from out of town and I really want to do 1043 01:18:50.121 --> 01:18:56.911 a program. I'm around this morning. So I know that obviously it's illegal still 1044 01:18:56.921 --> 01:18:59.771 because we receive federal funding that being said 1045 01:18:59.811 --> 01:19:05.261 a lot of the leniency process. And procedures are toward alcohol like that in my 1046 01:19:05.271 --> 01:19:09.431 peas and things of that nature so what is that you know like for Ready cannabis 1047 01:19:09.471 --> 01:19:12.441 Well what I want to start with telling you is just something that I learned when we 1048 01:19:12.451 --> 01:19:16.501 were talking about planning this right just as frequently as we say look at each 1049 01:19:16.511 --> 01:19:19.751 other we're questioning eyebrows they're doing that right now in law enforcement as 1050 01:19:19.761 --> 01:19:21.001 well we've had our P.D. 1051 01:19:21.011 --> 01:19:24.361 Come into the neighborhood association meetings when we're presenting plans on 1052 01:19:24.371 --> 01:19:29.011 zoning and they always say you know we are still trying to figure this out even for 1053 01:19:29.021 --> 01:19:33.041 this event today they reached out to at least 3 times to get someone on this panel 1054 01:19:33.051 --> 01:19:38.331 and they were just like. And that's not to say that you know that they aren't but 1055 01:19:38.681 --> 01:19:42.711 the feeling the overall feeling is that we're all trying to figure it out together 1056 01:19:42.941 --> 01:19:47.931 and especially with the dynamic with the police and reform or change when it comes 1057 01:19:47.941 --> 01:19:51.731 to things happening in anger and abbots and there and county sheriff department all 1058 01:19:51.741 --> 01:19:57.211 these other law enforcement legs their arms if you will they're still trying to 1059 01:19:57.221 --> 01:20:02.781 figure it out and so and what I tell people especially people of color is never 1060 01:20:02.791 --> 01:20:06.951 forget that law enforcement in policing is discretionary and so where you see 1061 01:20:07.021 --> 01:20:11.551 outcomes affected by who you're being who isn't forcing those laws that's not 1062 01:20:11.561 --> 01:20:16.442 changing legalizing cannabis and change that and I think students I want to grab 1063 01:20:17.212 --> 01:20:24.170 these very chairs great. Well I don't but I am I right OK But yeah I 1064 01:20:24.260 --> 01:20:26.670 tell students just tread lightly Be careful don't make 1065 01:20:26.680 --> 01:20:29.750 a decision that's going to ruin your future and like you said even with being an 1066 01:20:29.760 --> 01:20:34.730 immigrant right you have to tread lightly and I want to you Castle's because. Well 1067 01:20:34.740 --> 01:20:38.640 I'll take the 1st part of your question so the 1st part of your question talking 1068 01:20:38.650 --> 01:20:43.240 about companies from Canada so Canada is very very progressive We know that they 1069 01:20:43.250 --> 01:20:47.830 were one the 1st ones you can even participate on the can maybe in Stock Exchange 1070 01:20:47.840 --> 01:20:50.450 or the Toronto Stock Exchange if you don't have 1071 01:20:50.460 --> 01:20:57.030 a anomic inclusion piece on your in so we love Canada for that actually going to 1072 01:20:57.040 --> 01:21:02.100 Toronto next year to speak to some of the individuals on the Toronto Stock Exchange 1073 01:21:02.230 --> 01:21:04.060 to talk about economic inclusion so that's 1074 01:21:04.070 --> 01:21:08.700 a big thing the 2nd part of that is the Melissa pallet he's have a have 1075 01:21:08.710 --> 01:21:14.330 a they can decide on whether or not they're going to use. A real estate meaning 1076 01:21:14.340 --> 01:21:18.330 that the license is attached to the actual property or matrix system and their 1077 01:21:18.340 --> 01:21:23.330 maker system has the ability to include economic inclusion along with the social 1078 01:21:23.340 --> 01:21:25.260 impact that we also have so that's 1079 01:21:25.270 --> 01:21:29.830 a wonderful way for them to be able to do it so those 19 opportunity zones what 1080 01:21:29.840 --> 01:21:34.210 does that look like for them that's making sure that they're able to that business 1081 01:21:34.220 --> 01:21:38.830 is that come in participate in hiring individuals from that community in addition 1082 01:21:38.840 --> 01:21:42.470 to that making sure that they're offering training to that community and then last 1083 01:21:42.480 --> 01:21:47.410 but not least as we look at these opportunities owns making sure that we create 1084 01:21:47.420 --> 01:21:52.760 provisions by discounts on licensing applications to individuals who are citizens 1085 01:21:52.890 --> 01:21:56.720 of those zones because one thing that we do know if the green rush were to leave 1086 01:21:56.920 --> 01:22:00.850 those businesses that are owned by individuals who live there they will still be 1087 01:22:00.860 --> 01:22:05.540 able to flourish and we see that all the time when the economy changes so do 1088 01:22:05.550 --> 01:22:06.070 businesses 1089 01:22:06.080 --> 01:22:10.120 a lot of the time but people who actually are invested in that area will probably 1090 01:22:10.130 --> 01:22:15.090 be able to stay and that's the difference between development and education. Thank 1091 01:22:15.100 --> 01:22:18.160 you so much and we're going to answer as quickly as possible for the next few days 1092 01:22:18.170 --> 01:22:24.550 and now we're getting up on our 2nd. I'd like. To have Hello my name is Sam I'm 1093 01:22:24.560 --> 01:22:25.200 a partner in 1094 01:22:25.210 --> 01:22:29.130 a grow up aeration is coming here to Grand Rapids so I can grab in the granary 1095 01:22:29.140 --> 01:22:34.440 March. So I've been I'm going through the state approval system and also through 1096 01:22:34.450 --> 01:22:38.860 the city approval system just 2 things I want to say as far as people of color 1097 01:22:38.870 --> 01:22:43.060 because we as we look around in the business we don't see anybody else like us as 1098 01:22:43.100 --> 01:22:47.320 applying for transporter and when you think about investment don't think about 1099 01:22:47.330 --> 01:22:48.170 yourself think about 1100 01:22:48.180 --> 01:22:53.490 a group of people that's on my my group came about there's 4 different families and 1101 01:22:53.500 --> 01:22:57.540 the 2nd thing is that there is no such thing as public money for you to do this 1102 01:22:57.550 --> 01:23:01.150 thing so you have to generate your own investment you basically have to get 1103 01:23:01.160 --> 01:23:05.450 a master's and you know how to run the business from A to Z. 1104 01:23:06.030 --> 01:23:10.480 But my comment was more to the Movida because I know 1st of all thank you to the 1105 01:23:10.490 --> 01:23:16.070 city for making this platform available. But I also feel like we made 1106 01:23:16.080 --> 01:23:16.950 a lot of mistakes and 1107 01:23:16.960 --> 01:23:21.380 a lot of mishaps with the Movida pricing local people that have grown up in the 1108 01:23:21.390 --> 01:23:24.900 idea I wasn't born in Grand Rapids I lived there 31 years of my life but I do 1109 01:23:24.910 --> 01:23:27.750 consider myself a local person and I'm 1110 01:23:27.760 --> 01:23:32.980 a veto for me having 30 employees my 1st year when I'm myself and my partner's 1111 01:23:32.990 --> 01:23:37.330 other one work in the business in order for it to make it grow where David and 1112 01:23:37.340 --> 01:23:41.630 we're completely competing against you know Mr Jones said something very 1113 01:23:41.640 --> 01:23:45.410 interesting that is kind of the bases about business without giving too much of our 1114 01:23:45.420 --> 01:23:46.070 secrets of 1115 01:23:46.080 --> 01:23:51.900 a marketing plan but it's this idea of acceptance and the stigma around marijuana 1116 01:23:52.530 --> 01:23:56.920 where we're OK with seeing somebody drunk stumbling around but if somebody smells I 1117 01:23:56.930 --> 01:24:00.740 mean I want to you know we're like oh my gosh what's going on so part of them 1118 01:24:00.750 --> 01:24:05.400 a beat I think hurt some of the local businesses as we tried to get into the 1119 01:24:05.410 --> 01:24:10.600 business not only that but the 2nd point is when when the attention was brought to 1120 01:24:10.610 --> 01:24:14.830 some of those bad players in the lottery I think we could have done 1121 01:24:14.840 --> 01:24:20.480 a better job as the city monitoring those bad players we know that individuals. You 1122 01:24:20.490 --> 01:24:24.790 know their good neighbor plan was not in time they didn't engage in the hours they 1123 01:24:24.800 --> 01:24:29.830 were supposed to and so those individuals got you know ahead of other individuals 1124 01:24:29.840 --> 01:24:33.750 in the lottery which then priced out some of the local people as well so I think 1125 01:24:33.760 --> 01:24:38.210 monitoring and really being transparent as to the process could help 1126 01:24:38.220 --> 01:24:44.170 a lot of the local people and just asking our input I mean realistically if me and 1127 01:24:44.310 --> 01:24:49.040 5 or 6 of my partners are the war running the business we can't qualify from 1128 01:24:49.050 --> 01:24:52.880 a beat after the 1st year because we don't have 30 employees and we're just trying 1129 01:24:52.890 --> 01:24:57.190 to keep our head above water you know growing 500 plants when the plant down the 1130 01:24:57.200 --> 01:25:02.640 street is going 50000 plants but again this is what you get into this is part of 1131 01:25:02.650 --> 01:25:05.700 the risk but I think from the city standpoint we could have done 1132 01:25:05.710 --> 01:25:09.650 a better job with good input from those individuals and not only that but 1133 01:25:09.660 --> 01:25:13.340 monitoring those bad players that were there that honestly 1134 01:25:13.350 --> 01:25:16.410 a lot of people brought to the attention of the commission say hey this is this 1135 01:25:16.420 --> 01:25:20.050 isn't right with this person was in there or that group was in there so that was my 1136 01:25:20.060 --> 01:25:23.180 only comment thank you for thank you that lead in the fire you do you want to 1137 01:25:23.220 --> 01:25:30.120 respond to. Me point just. Land use land use approval 1138 01:25:30.340 --> 01:25:36.950 sorry when I said. Property and not owner so when we approve. 1139 01:25:38.461 --> 01:25:44.471 You know we the city commission made the rules and I can speak to how much they 1140 01:25:44.481 --> 01:25:48.283 thought through what they were doing when they met the rules pleasured and set up 1141 01:25:48.293 --> 01:25:54.263 but. You know no you didn't hear was the word in its luster and recorded great. 1142 01:25:56.333 --> 01:26:02.423 You know the I think their intentions are right. And how how we were able to apply 1143 01:26:02.433 --> 01:26:07.383 it was very difficult and for what it's worth we cut out several applications but 1144 01:26:07.393 --> 01:26:12.023 you can't you can't say hey I think you're a bad player because the moment 1145 01:26:12.703 --> 01:26:16.683 a good player comes in and the Planning Commission or city commission says do 1146 01:26:16.693 --> 01:26:20.750 whatever you can to get them through the process. Let's say they go through 1147 01:26:20.760 --> 01:26:24.090 a process and everyone says these guys are great they're making the 1148 01:26:24.130 --> 01:26:28.820 a good decision for all the wrong reasons these guys are great let's make sure that 1149 01:26:28.830 --> 01:26:32.880 they get approved and then they turn around and sell it to somebody else the next 1150 01:26:32.890 --> 01:26:37.600 day and this happens all the time so so you can say oh this guy's 1151 01:26:37.610 --> 01:26:42.730 a hometown hero we love them and turns around and the person the boogie man in the 1152 01:26:42.740 --> 01:26:45.770 room that everyone doesn't like from Detroit comes in and says great and here's 1153 01:26:45.780 --> 01:26:50.040 a $1000000.00 I'll buy that off thanks so much and it happens all the time so I 1154 01:26:50.050 --> 01:26:55.060 hear you're saying. There's there's only so much you can do to control who is 1155 01:26:55.070 --> 01:26:58.880 owning what and how who's operating and to that question like to the point about 1156 01:26:59.080 --> 01:27:03.950 how do we incentivize participation in this industry you know ownership in this 1157 01:27:03.960 --> 01:27:07.940 industry from certain populations have great intentions and it can turn around like 1158 01:27:07.950 --> 01:27:11.740 that and it can still be rich white men that come in and take over the industry I 1159 01:27:11.750 --> 01:27:12.250 hate to sound like 1160 01:27:12.260 --> 01:27:18.310 a downer but that happens all the time so the intentions of there the execution is 1161 01:27:18.320 --> 01:27:22.620 very hard to figure out. Thank you so much for your question and congratulations 1162 01:27:22.630 --> 01:27:29.371 again on the Grammy help goes well yeah. My questions are about out of those 1163 01:27:30.371 --> 01:27:35.351 1st one like is it legal to produce them because I remember one time they were 1164 01:27:35.421 --> 01:27:40.141 talking about was illegal to change the substance or something and then if so what 1165 01:27:40.151 --> 01:27:46.911 kind of life sons would do. And then the driving part do you know how long you 1166 01:27:46.921 --> 01:27:50.351 would have to have edibles out of yours you know before 1167 01:27:50.361 --> 01:27:56.141 a tie to your system so I guess it's to become a compound. I'm sorry 1168 01:27:56.281 --> 01:27:59.831 a compound this and micro business I had 1169 01:27:59.841 --> 01:28:06.591 a bad experience when I was half or 3 and I. Never gave up so the reason 1170 01:28:07.191 --> 01:28:07.951 is because 1171 01:28:08.301 --> 01:28:12.151 a lot of individuals is really really cool you like Wow I make brownies I make 1172 01:28:12.161 --> 01:28:16.171 cookies I'm so good at it and you have no idea how much T.H.C. 1173 01:28:16.181 --> 01:28:20.041 Us put in the short story it is God there's an amount of T.H.C. 1174 01:28:20.051 --> 01:28:25.231 That that is agreed upon in every state I think what is it milligrams or some of us 1175 01:28:25.301 --> 01:28:27.391 whatever it is well we had 1176 01:28:27.401 --> 01:28:33.061 a. We sat there we ate this 3 course meal it was delicious and then the chef came 1177 01:28:33.071 --> 01:28:34.531 out and we said how much T.H.C. 1178 01:28:34.821 --> 01:28:41.781 Do we he said I get to that part yet. Not so for 3 days almost quit mound I 1179 01:28:41.791 --> 01:28:48.161 was becoming something I said to not talk to myself for 12 hours and so because of 1180 01:28:48.171 --> 01:28:52.181 that because edibles once they get into your system it's not like smoking weed you 1181 01:28:52.191 --> 01:28:58.441 can't stop it it takes over my SO experience with it out of all was in Colorado and 1182 01:28:58.451 --> 01:29:03.691 they have like these little chocolates on the same everyone is the same way here I 1183 01:29:03.701 --> 01:29:03.981 need 1184 01:29:03.991 --> 01:29:11.391 a medically OK I can't smoke because I have seen already so I have to buy 1185 01:29:11.401 --> 01:29:17.361 something that I is. Predictable so to keep you from going to jail 1st thing you 1186 01:29:17.371 --> 01:29:19.131 want to do is become a compound as 1187 01:29:19.141 --> 01:29:21.871 a figure out how much to be able to measure the T.H.C. 1188 01:29:22.141 --> 01:29:26.271 Next thing is it looks like you could probably go into business and be able to look 1189 01:29:26.281 --> 01:29:31.351 so that way you can grow you can process and then you'll be able to to utilize that 1190 01:29:31.571 --> 01:29:36.811 and that looks like that's probably the best way for edibles to go into business as 1191 01:29:36.821 --> 01:29:40.860 a right now but I encourage. Become 1192 01:29:40.870 --> 01:29:43.840 a compounds and find out how much T.H.C. 1193 01:29:43.850 --> 01:29:47.540 Is in the air somebody really be in trouble and listen start this process or 1194 01:29:47.550 --> 01:29:48.430 license is 1195 01:29:48.440 --> 01:29:52.090 a process of life and I mean you just need to make sure if you're going to go 1196 01:29:52.100 --> 01:29:56.600 through that process that you have to get your products tested and they have to be 1197 01:29:56.640 --> 01:29:59.170 homogeneous as far as A levels so that you don't end up with 1198 01:29:59.180 --> 01:30:03.510 a woman and edible with 100 milligrams of nothing so there's there's 1199 01:30:03.520 --> 01:30:04.250 a lot of science is 1200 01:30:04.260 --> 01:30:08.690 a lot of science to be know that's the compound is but the science is never behind 1201 01:30:08.700 --> 01:30:15.550 it but just be due diligence with somebody good and for transparency at the last 1202 01:30:15.560 --> 01:30:20.550 Michigan. The Cannabis Industry Association Conference Saskia from Colorado came in 1203 01:30:20.560 --> 01:30:24.690 I was talking about how the 1st wave of figuring this industry out for them was 1204 01:30:24.700 --> 01:30:30.120 legalization and then the 2nd way for them was figuring out how to regulate when it 1205 01:30:30.130 --> 01:30:33.250 came to labels and talking about potency because it became 1206 01:30:33.260 --> 01:30:36.920 a whole different game where people were trying to create the you know the people 1207 01:30:36.930 --> 01:30:40.510 get so excited they want to create something new and folks come to Colorado who 1208 01:30:40.520 --> 01:30:43.360 aren't prepared for what they have access to and everything's the same size but 1209 01:30:43.370 --> 01:30:48.010 it's completely different potency and so they were that new fight is how are we 1210 01:30:48.020 --> 01:30:51.080 going to regulate this so that people are being safe that people know what they're 1211 01:30:51.090 --> 01:30:55.030 doing and so that there's some common education around what you're getting yourself 1212 01:30:55.040 --> 01:30:59.220 into primarily around edibles and primarily around the different substances big 1213 01:30:59.420 --> 01:30:59.970 Once you get 1214 01:30:59.980 --> 01:31:04.220 a step further than just how to grow it where to sell it and rolling up and putting 1215 01:31:04.230 --> 01:31:05.140 in a joint right there is 1216 01:31:05.150 --> 01:31:08.090 a whole different part of the industry that they even in Colorado are still trying 1217 01:31:08.100 --> 01:31:11.600 to figure out in the 2nd part of that is she said the one thing we got wrong in 1218 01:31:11.610 --> 01:31:15.040 Colorado is social equity and now they're working on its elevator licenses for 1219 01:31:15.050 --> 01:31:17.740 minorities and women and that's something that they're doing in Colorado that I've 1220 01:31:17.750 --> 01:31:20.930 been watching and working with them on but everyone still trying to figure that 1221 01:31:20.940 --> 01:31:23.830 piece out when it comes to like the impotency all that stuff so we're probably 1222 01:31:23.840 --> 01:31:30.100 going to get there next in Michigan so. There's schools in California and 1223 01:31:30.680 --> 01:31:36.360 kind of around that you can go to any courage Please educate yourself this is very 1224 01:31:36.370 --> 01:31:41.170 very important because as we look at it as an insurance agent. True story and 1225 01:31:41.180 --> 01:31:44.080 a really really quick men and women got a candy bar there was 1226 01:31:44.090 --> 01:31:48.790 a cannabis candy bar it was the legal amount was terminal grams we had to take this 1227 01:31:48.800 --> 01:31:52.480 on a test similar 10 grams or whatever it was $100.00 that was 1228 01:31:52.490 --> 01:31:57.420 a he decided he was going go home killed his wife now went to jail but they sued 1229 01:31:57.430 --> 01:32:01.810 the company that he got the candy bar for so they had to give him $10000000.00 1230 01:32:01.820 --> 01:32:06.030 while he spends the rest of his life in jail but they were at fault understand this 1231 01:32:06.070 --> 01:32:09.630 it is imperative that you know how much T.C. 1232 01:32:09.800 --> 01:32:14.390 You are given individuals because everybody reacts to it extremely different and 1233 01:32:14.400 --> 01:32:19.810 the burden is on you could you make it so what I'm hearing is not illegal in 1234 01:32:19.820 --> 01:32:20.990 Michigan to produce 1235 01:32:21.060 --> 01:32:26.521 a lot of balls but there are regulations to go with that. Task are you using them 1236 01:32:26.531 --> 01:32:31.891 for yourself or are you going to send the seller know I'm considering like whether 1237 01:32:31.901 --> 01:32:37.221 it would be financially beneficial for me to produce them for others no not for 1238 01:32:37.231 --> 01:32:38.661 myself then you'd have to get 1239 01:32:38.671 --> 01:32:44.460 a process or license you there under the medical act. For the facilities Licensing 1240 01:32:44.470 --> 01:32:50.490 Act or into the recreational act follow all the rules and application forms and 1241 01:32:50.530 --> 01:32:55.420 processes. Thank you so much for your question on Best of luck to you we're going 1242 01:32:55.430 --> 01:32:58.280 to finish these last 2 and I'm going to execute your answers to 60 seconds or less 1243 01:32:58.290 --> 01:33:04.020 because we've hit another. Milestone OK another milestone that we're going to call 1244 01:33:04.030 --> 01:33:04.870 a friend is 1245 01:33:04.880 --> 01:33:11.700 a milestone OK My question is I left field old as I work for the county had problem 1246 01:33:11.710 --> 01:33:17.450 and I do a lot of work in the schools so for now I'm understanding if you have 1247 01:33:17.870 --> 01:33:24.580 a medical marijuana card you have to consume that at your home correct. Public 1248 01:33:24.750 --> 01:33:29.710 that's not public so how does it work if a child or a student has 1249 01:33:29.720 --> 01:33:34.300 a medical marijuana card and they need to have their medical marijuana distributed 1250 01:33:34.310 --> 01:33:41.030 them throughout the day how does that work does anyone have any input on that if 1251 01:33:41.040 --> 01:33:45.900 not to have any resources that would direct me to where I could find that out I 1252 01:33:45.910 --> 01:33:50.380 have no I I don't that's cool in there does it need to be maybe before or after 1253 01:33:50.390 --> 01:33:55.790 they go to school. If it's at their home I'm not sure I don't know I would probably 1254 01:33:55.800 --> 01:33:58.980 have a conversation and I will say again like some schools feel 1255 01:33:58.990 --> 01:34:00.620 a lot differently than others there is 1256 01:34:00.630 --> 01:34:04.410 a different part of education they do things to many different schools and so for 1257 01:34:04.420 --> 01:34:07.580 some of them it's not even about you know what the student needs about what they 1258 01:34:07.590 --> 01:34:13.000 don't want at their school and I think that's higher up the legislative pipeline 1259 01:34:13.010 --> 01:34:17.180 than where we touch right now in the diocese but I would say calling to ask at the 1260 01:34:17.190 --> 01:34:18.500 state level maybe M.R.E. 1261 01:34:18.510 --> 01:34:21.650 Would shed some light on that and then of course talking to that school but ensure 1262 01:34:21.660 --> 01:34:25.960 that school board and I think anecdotes are important in conversations that we have 1263 01:34:25.970 --> 01:34:30.280 around campus because again we have to overcome stigma 1st to get to the real 1264 01:34:30.290 --> 01:34:34.580 benefits of medical and that's kind of just the way that we are right now yeah 1265 01:34:34.590 --> 01:34:35.340 dissing but is there 1266 01:34:35.350 --> 01:34:41.210 a core in peace to be considering right now absolutely and just thinking about 1267 01:34:42.030 --> 01:34:45.750 a lot of the aspects to that I would do a google search because I know I ran into 1268 01:34:45.760 --> 01:34:50.640 a news article about the I Want A was Florida I don't know what that I don't know 1269 01:34:50.650 --> 01:34:56.730 what. They made some accommodation but you know the parents are nobody could give 1270 01:34:56.740 --> 01:35:00.910 it to them at the school legally so legally they could not be administered the 1271 01:35:00.920 --> 01:35:05.800 medical marijuana at the school and that but I think that's rolling in Florida or. 1272 01:35:06.591 --> 01:35:11.131 That's Federally they can do that or that mean that's like the state said that the 1273 01:35:11.141 --> 01:35:13.181 state says that day because looking at 1274 01:35:13.191 --> 01:35:16.681 a lot of the school policies in Kent County the districts 1275 01:35:16.881 --> 01:35:21.921 a lot of them don't even reference marijuana at all in their substance use policies 1276 01:35:22.841 --> 01:35:26.121 so that's something that they should be considering to but thank you that's really 1277 01:35:26.181 --> 01:35:29.371 I think it was like last thank you and this is our last one for the day and then 1278 01:35:29.381 --> 01:35:33.191 we're going to close I'm going to have to know my name is Karim scales and my 1279 01:35:33.201 --> 01:35:37.961 question is more along the lines of operating a motor vehicle so we hear 1280 01:35:37.971 --> 01:35:42.191 a lot of comparisons with the marijuana and alcohol obviously with alcohol there's 1281 01:35:42.201 --> 01:35:47.021 a blood alcohol level has there been has not yet been defined as to how that's 1282 01:35:47.031 --> 01:35:53.221 measured with marijuana and if not we can we expect. That's an awesome question in 1283 01:35:53.231 --> 01:35:55.181 the States the so the states studied it for 1284 01:35:55.191 --> 01:35:59.751 a year and came back and said we can't set a number on it and they had 1285 01:35:59.761 --> 01:36:06.641 a special commission full of scientists and. Some police officers 1286 01:36:06.651 --> 01:36:10.761 and that type of thing and people there would know and they basically said they 1287 01:36:10.771 --> 01:36:12.251 came back and said we cannot put 1288 01:36:12.261 --> 01:36:16.651 a number on it so there is no number of drug driving obviously has 1289 01:36:16.661 --> 01:36:22.231 a point 0 weight there is no number for marijuana which makes it all that much more 1290 01:36:22.241 --> 01:36:28.913 scary if you have marijuana in your body and you're driving because there is no per 1291 01:36:28.923 --> 01:36:33.903 se amount so at this point in time 00 in your system period and that's 1292 01:36:34.033 --> 01:36:34.823 unfortunately what 1293 01:36:34.833 --> 01:36:41.193 a lot of prosecutors are looking at it as whether it's for nanograms or 14 anagrams 1294 01:36:42.365 --> 01:36:44.515 they know what it can say you cannot put 1295 01:36:44.525 --> 01:36:48.805 a scientists on the witness stand who's going to say your employer at this level or 1296 01:36:48.815 --> 01:36:52.287 this level and I've seen them have 1297 01:36:52.297 --> 01:36:57.408 a case right now with Warner grants. And they're prosecuting the person under the 1298 01:36:57.418 --> 01:37:01.700 drunk driving the drug driving a statute for not 1299 01:37:01.710 --> 01:37:07.091 a grams. Thank you so much for your question and what I'm going to say because you 1300 01:37:07.101 --> 01:37:12.421 guys have so many incredible questions that. My last question to all of you before 1301 01:37:12.431 --> 01:37:17.941 we close will be my unapologetic final bang will be how do people stay in touch how 1302 01:37:17.951 --> 01:37:21.201 this day involving your organization your movement or connect with you because I'm 1303 01:37:21.211 --> 01:37:25.381 sure that we could have conversation about what's legal and how we navigate the 1304 01:37:25.391 --> 01:37:30.801 nuance in this new industry all day and I know because I do this all day every day 1305 01:37:30.841 --> 01:37:32.501 this is what an entire black and brown kind of 1306 01:37:32.511 --> 01:37:37.731 a skilled meeting is how we do this what we do then what we do next so I would like 1307 01:37:37.741 --> 01:37:39.961 to start at the end that we're going to work our way down and then we're going to 1308 01:37:39.971 --> 01:37:43.731 close because this rant over because it's so good I see something years but I want 1309 01:37:43.741 --> 01:37:47.961 to let them say how to stay in touch with them and then we're going to wrap up OK 1310 01:37:48.511 --> 01:37:52.741 disability advocates of Kent County we have a Web site that you can access we have 1311 01:37:52.751 --> 01:37:58.431 a Facebook page we. Literally think I'm 1312 01:37:58.681 --> 01:38:03.561 a technology challenge so. But that would be the way you could access. 1313 01:38:05.322 --> 01:38:09.292 Access our website without any problem in from 1314 01:38:09.302 --> 01:38:15.651 a contact information's on there. Thank You can go to W.W.W. 1315 01:38:16.101 --> 01:38:20.431 See some of the case on where I teach individuals how to build wealth in the green 1316 01:38:20.441 --> 01:38:25.311 rush and shrink the wealth at your portfolios crowdfunding and host of different 1317 01:38:25.321 --> 01:38:31.111 other things in addition to that you can also check me out. Follow us on all of the 1318 01:38:31.121 --> 01:38:37.181 social media platforms. And Samone is what to see so see. And then see 1319 01:38:37.991 --> 01:38:42.781 oh and and then last but not least please look at my organization which is on the 1320 01:38:42.831 --> 01:38:47.241 chapter president for minorities for medical marijuana which was voted Denver's 1321 01:38:47.251 --> 01:38:53.021 2018 best diverse. Marijuana organization so that's 1322 01:38:53.031 --> 01:38:55.921 a big one from the cup so definitely check us out we do 1323 01:38:55.931 --> 01:39:02.871 a lot of community things but for to see and everybody. Yes please go on this 1324 01:39:02.881 --> 01:39:07.211 25th I am having in the scheme hikes we are having 1325 01:39:07.221 --> 01:39:09.381 a cannabis and culture where there's 1326 01:39:09.391 --> 01:39:13.471 a lot of being in the core door we're inviting everybody to come out the tickets 1327 01:39:13.481 --> 01:39:17.221 are only $25.00 they'll be vendors there before we get 1328 01:39:17.231 --> 01:39:23.721 a poll it's all kind of vague and different cannabis vendors that will be there 1329 01:39:23.901 --> 01:39:29.211 there will be poetry it's almost like Love Jones meets Howard so yeah come on now 1330 01:39:29.221 --> 01:39:33.081 with me right now it's live music D.J. 1331 01:39:33.091 --> 01:39:38.071 And the deejays only play eighty's and ninety's and I'm going to be 1332 01:39:38.081 --> 01:39:44.451 a good time to have barbecue in college. We don't have sliders in the inside and 1333 01:39:44.491 --> 01:39:49.861 everybody does hang out is from 6 to 12 on Sunday August 25th in Muskegon hikes and 1334 01:39:49.871 --> 01:39:55.841 it's my way of welcoming the cannabis industry to the. Light brown and white people 1335 01:39:55.851 --> 01:40:02.311 everybody thank you so much so know best way to in the read up more information and 1336 01:40:02.321 --> 01:40:09.111 tips. About the medical facilities. Recreation lack of 1337 01:40:09.121 --> 01:40:12.171 probably be at my website W.W.W. 1338 01:40:12.211 --> 01:40:13.101 Bruce Allen 1339 01:40:13.111 --> 01:40:19.551 a block dot com B R U C A L A N B L O C K dot com 1340 01:40:20.201 --> 01:40:24.021 I would be the best way of staying in touch and or 1341 01:40:24.031 --> 01:40:30.601 a call me and come see me. I would say Grand Rapids I'm out of 1342 01:40:30.641 --> 01:40:35.401 slash marijuana is the best way or if you go to ground opposite my gov search box 1343 01:40:35.411 --> 01:40:39.411 of top right plug in any word for marijuana you want to look at you there is can I 1344 01:40:39.421 --> 01:40:41.181 just type team lead team with 1345 01:40:41.191 --> 01:40:45.411 a patent on you and you know shoot me or and I mean mail if you have questions 1346 01:40:45.421 --> 01:40:50.051 mostly about the US the local process if you're if you especially are interested in 1347 01:40:50.061 --> 01:40:55.141 open business as far as as far as this kind of question about what's legal I just 1348 01:40:55.151 --> 01:40:59.421 want to mention that we have some more educational sessions that are sort of more 1349 01:40:59.881 --> 01:41:01.241 smaller community of 1350 01:41:01.251 --> 01:41:07.662 a sessions tomorrow tomorrow all week next next week 1351 01:41:08.392 --> 01:41:13.342 but check out and when we have that we have Baxter Garfield Park Jim Hispanic 1352 01:41:13.352 --> 01:41:18.943 Center maybe others steeple town and one of the cedar spring so that's those are 1353 01:41:18.953 --> 01:41:22.943 happening next week in the police but spread the word about that so we can get 1354 01:41:23.263 --> 01:41:27.313 a lot of community input but just keep in mind Grant is 1355 01:41:27.323 --> 01:41:28.813 a Modoc of his life marijuana and that's 1356 01:41:28.823 --> 01:41:32.790 a good touch with me here in Alabama. Thank you guys and my name is an obvious 1357 01:41:33.220 --> 01:41:37.390 again I'm going to post in under the live stream thread for the city growing up 1358 01:41:37.400 --> 01:41:41.460 it's not in all the places I share this too just on the original 6 to 10 of my 1359 01:41:41.470 --> 01:41:46.400 favorite groups to follow the legal groups the professional networks online where 1360 01:41:46.410 --> 01:41:49.480 you can watch thousands of people all over the state of Michigan from the U.P. 1361 01:41:49.490 --> 01:41:53.890 To the north of the Ann Arbor folks talking about where they are in the challenges 1362 01:41:53.900 --> 01:41:58.930 and what's going on in marijuana and then also the black or brown cannabis guild 1363 01:41:58.940 --> 01:41:59.070 has 1364 01:41:59.080 --> 01:42:03.980 a Facebook group that anybody can join we will probably go ahead I'm going to say 1365 01:42:04.020 --> 01:42:07.500 because I already got some text about it we will probably carpool over to the 1366 01:42:07.510 --> 01:42:13.430 Muskegon like Love Jones how did you guys can probably join us and my website. 1367 01:42:15.510 --> 01:42:18.900 Dot com If you have any questions about my firm in the work we do in engagement and 1368 01:42:18.910 --> 01:42:22.210 the kind of US companies that we've been working with but thank you guys so much 1369 01:42:22.220 --> 01:42:25.150 for having this I want to give it up for all of you for being here today and for 1370 01:42:25.160 --> 01:42:28.540 and HELOC again for putting this on thank you so much thank you. 1371 01:42:34.120 --> 01:42:39.220 Thank you everybody if you haven't already filled out your post survey cards please 1372 01:42:39.230 --> 01:42:45.810 do post panel survey please do and then give it to us at the registration table or 1373 01:42:45.820 --> 01:42:52.490 just like handed to me. Thank you so much for coming hope you keep mingling and 1374 01:42:53.270 --> 01:42:57.460 truly excited thank you. Yes of course and.